To be Justified by Faith is to be Justified by Christ

jamie

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Why did God wait until Paul to reveal this?

Jesus was sent to offer God's kingdom to Israel. The Jewish leadership declined the offer and had the Messenger crucified.

Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it.
(Matthew 21:43 NKJV)​

The apostles offered the kingdom to everyone.
 

jamie

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So you think that the word "church" always refers to the SAME "church"?

The NT writings refer to God's church primarily as the church of God. The church began in the wilderness with Moses after Christ led the people out of Egypt.
 

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Jesus was sent to offer God's kingdom to Israel. The Jewish leadership declined the offer and had the Messenger crucified.
Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it.
(Matthew 21:43 NKJV)​
The apostles offered the kingdom to everyone.
Just more confusion. The gospel of the grace of God is NOT the gospel of the kingdom.
 

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The NT writings refer to God's church primarily as the church of God. The church began in the wilderness with Moses after Christ led the people out of Egypt.
You're half right.

The church in the wilderness was believing Israel, as was the church in Acts 1-8.

Do you think that MML&J is NT? Jesus did NOT preach NT in those books.
 

jamie

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Just more confusion. The gospel of the grace of God is NOT the gospel of the kingdom.

Christ is not big on changing horses midstream. There has only been one gospel of salvation by grace from the day Adam sinned.

Since Paul preached his gospel from the Hebrew Bible then it was there all along. Jesus spent forty days after his resurrection training his apostles on the gospel.

After Jesus puts an end to all rule and all authority and power then he will deliver the kingdom to God the Father.

He will be great and will be called the Son of the Highest, and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever and of His kingdom there will be no end. (Luke 1:33 NKJV)​

It's only right that a King should have a kingdom.
 

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Christ is not big on changing horses midstream.
You just love to make stuff up out of thin air. Whatever it takes justify your myth.

There has only been one gospel of salvation by grace from the day Adam sinned.
More made up "support" for your unbiblical doctrines.

Since Paul preached his gospel from the Hebrew Bible then it was there all along. Jesus spent forty days after his resurrection training his apostles on the gospel.
Third fib of the post. Great going.

Christ was with them for THREE years preaching the gospel of the kingdom at hand. Was the forty days a post graduate class?

After Jesus puts an end to all rule and all authority and power then he will deliver the kingdom to God the Father.
He will be great and will be called the Son of the Highest, and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever and of His kingdom there will be no end. (Luke 1:33 NKJV)​
It's only right that a King should have a kingdom.
Well why would anyone disagree with that? Once again, this is related to the kingdom of Israel (Jacob, David, etc. etc.).

But you left out the OTHER half.
Eph 1:9-12 KJV Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: (10) That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: (11) In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: (12) That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
 

Bradley D

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1 - It means that Jesus had no need to die for that. In that case the prophets were right. (Jer. 31:30; Ezek. 18:20)

2 - I was not referring to animals but to people. Jesus was not an animal but a person.

3 - So, James could not have written a Christian message. He was a Jew.

Jer. and Ezek. were writing that no one could blame sins on anyone else but themselves (Israel). It did not say they could not be saved if they would repent. God was punishing Israel in hopes that it would repent.

I'm sure you know what I am talking about with the animal sacrifices. God instructed Moses to have animals without blemish sacrificed for the sins of the Israelites because their blood was innocent blood (animals do not sin). However, the sacrifice of animals became meaningless. God sent His own son as the ultimate sacrifice. Jesus who was without sin and God's only Son should have more weight upon one's heart/respect.

As for James being a Christian. The first Christians were Jews.
 

Robert Pate

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Jer. and Ezek. were writing that no one could blame sins on anyone else but themselves (Israel). It did not say they could not be saved if they would repent. God was punishing Israel in hopes that it would repent.

I'm sure you know what I am talking about with the animal sacrifices. God instructed Moses to have animals without blemish sacrificed for the sins of the Israelites because their blood was innocent blood (animals do not sin). However, the sacrifice of animals became meaningless. God sent His own son as the ultimate sacrifice. Jesus who was without sin and God's only Son should have more weight upon one's heart/respect.

As for James being a Christian. The first Christians were Jews.


You might have better luck talking to a telephone pole.
 
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