glorydaz
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Which, by the way, is a very important distinction when figuring out what these verses mean.The body of Christ is NOT "gentiles included with Israel".
The body of Christ is NEITHER Jew NOR Greek. Gal 3:28
Which, by the way, is a very important distinction when figuring out what these verses mean.The body of Christ is NOT "gentiles included with Israel".
The body of Christ is NEITHER Jew NOR Greek. Gal 3:28
One is repent and be baptized. The other is believe unto righteousness.I think the mystery is more that Gentiles were to be included than that it's a different gospel.
Exactly. We know the restoration of the Kingdom to Israel was postponed until after the Tribulation.There is NO "exasperation" of Jesus in Acts 1... if there was you could show it. Jesus simply told them that is was not the TIME... not that the question was wrong.
Clearly brand new information, for sure.Paul was given REVELATION... much of that revelation was NEW information. That Paul confirms and uses the OT is not proof otherwise.
Like Luke 17:20 " And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."Yep, Paul is speaking of a spiritual kingdom when he talks about the Kingdom of God.
Colossians 2:11 " In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead."One is repent and be baptized. The other is believe unto righteousness.
That reminds me of His parables. We know there going to be a Kingdom on earth where Jesus is King, and there is a Kingdom in heaven.Like Luke 17:20 " And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."
That isn't water baptism....by the hands of man. Just as the circumcision is not by hands.Colossians 2:11 " In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead."
I don't know if I responded to this, but it got me to thinking. Paul got fed up with preaching to the Jews and having them reject his gospel.Ok. But that doesn't mean Peter and Paul preached different gospels. After all Paul went through in Acts, here's what he was preaching:
Acts 28:31 (KJV) Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.
It's not new information if Paul is telling us to search the scriptures to confirm that what he is preaching is truth.Paul was given REVELATION ... much of that revelation was NEW information. That Paul confirms and uses the OT is not proof otherwise.
I don't think he was claiming all his revelations could be found in scripture. Unless, perhaps, they were hidden.It's not new information if Paul is telling us to search the scriptures to confirm that what he is preaching is truth.
I never said that everything that Paul said was new. Only some was completely new.It's not new information if Paul is telling us to search the scriptures to confirm that what he is preaching is truth.
Just as clearly Paul NEVER stopped preaching to Jews as a people, as shown in Acts 28. He continued to go to the Jews first, then to the Gentiles.I don't know if I responded to this, but it got me to thinking. Paul got fed up with preaching to the Jews and having them reject his gospel.
Clearly, back in Acts 13, Paul was preaching his Gospel. He spoke of the death and resurrection and then this....
Acts 13:
28 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
45 But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming.
46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.
And the epistles of Paul addressed to specific churches, were churches that contained both Jewish and Gentile believers.Just as clearly Paul NEVER stopped preaching to Jews as a people, as shown in Acts 28. He continued to go to the Jews first, then to the Gentiles.
He did, preaching his gospel of grace. He also knew they were blinded. Romans 11Just as clearly Paul NEVER stopped preaching to Jews as a people, as shown in Acts 28. He continued to go to the Jews first, then to the Gentiles.
There is neither Jew nor Greek in the body.And the epistles of Paul addressed to specific churches, were churches that contained both Jewish and Gentile believers.
so do you think there's any benefit for Jews to choose one gospel over the other?There is neither Jew nor Greek in the body.
"Jewish believers" and "Gentile believers" are known as the church of God.
Maybe they were blinded by the 12's gospel so they couldn't see Paul's gospel.He did, preaching his gospel of grace. He also knew they were blinded. Romans 11
Oh my goodness. I've never thought of that before.so do you think there's any benefit for Jews to choose one gospel over the other?
I think they were so "zealous" of the law, they were blinded by their own pride.Maybe they were blinded by the 12's gospel so they couldn't see Paul's gospel.
Good question.so do you think there's any benefit for Jews to choose one gospel over the other?