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Nobody asked if you said "Jesus is king of eternity". I asked you if you call Jesus "King of eternity". Do you? Yes or No?



Why resumes? Had YHWH left off "being-King of eternity" so that He needs to resume "being-King of eternity"? If so, then who would you say is "being-King of eternity" in the interim?

He appointed Jesus king of his kingdom, it ends. No one is king of Eternity at present. That appointment as king of Gods kingdom for 1000 years, and the Bride of Christ= 144,000= the little flock, and a name above other names is his reward for accomplishing what he came to earth to do= The ransom sacrifice. He could have failed.
 

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Its plural for the false trinity gods served back in those days.

Saying it doesn't make it so.

Its literal meaning is "Gods." The fact that the plural form is used instead of the singular "El" should tell you something. Moses and the other authors of the Bible INTENTIONALLY used the plural form of the word "God" for a reason, KJ.

But Every Hebrew scholar on earth will tell you-NEVER plural for the true living God in their Hebrew written OT.

No, they wouldn't, and this is an appeal to authority.

Its your blind guides who say its plural for the true living God.

Saying it doesn't make it so.

Mr Russell never made up a prophecy.

J. F. Rutherford made the prophecy recorded in the book, "The Harp of God," published in 1921, that "Millions now living will never die." He was shown to be wrong. That makes him a false prophet.

C. Russell made the prophecy that the world would end in 1914. It's currently the year of our Lord 2022, over a century later, and the world hasn't ended yet. That makes him a false prophet.

He spoke on a true prophecy that God prophecied called Armageddon.

His prophecy was that the world would end in 1914. It didn't end in 1914. That makes him a false prophet.

Here's what the Bible says about people who make prophecies that don't come true:

when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. - Deuteronomy 18:22 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy18:22&version=NKJV

His error was trying to put a date on a true prophecy.

Yes, and because he did so, that makes him a false prophet.

There is nothing false about Armageddon.

No one said there was.

Only an apostate would label Gods true prophecy a false prophecy.

C. Russell's prophecy was not a true prophecy, by definition.
 

kjw47

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Saying it doesn't make it so.

Its literal meaning is "Gods." The fact that the plural form is used instead of the singular "El" should tell you something. Moses and the other authors of the Bible INTENTIONALLY used the plural form of the word "God" for a reason, KJ.



No, they wouldn't, and this is an appeal to authority.



Saying it doesn't make it so.



J. F. Rutherford made the prophecy recorded in the book, "The Harp of God," published in 1921, that "Millions now living will never die." He was shown to be wrong. That makes him a false prophet.

C. Russell made the prophecy that the world would end in 1914. It's currently the year of our Lord 2022, over a century later, and the world hasn't ended yet. That makes him a false prophet.



His prophecy was that the world would end in 1914. It didn't end in 1914. That makes him a false prophet.

Here's what the Bible says about people who make prophecies that don't come true:

when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. - Deuteronomy 18:22 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy18:22&version=NKJV



Yes, and because he did so, that makes him a false prophet.



No one said there was.



C. Russell's prophecy was not a true prophecy, by definition.

Rutherford wasnt a prophet, And he has died and paid his wages of sin. Light has grown very bright since those days.
 

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He stepped aside and appointed his son as king, But at the end of Rev 20 this occurs-1Cor 15:24-28--Jesus must hand back the kingdom to his God and Father and subject himself. Then YHWH(Jehovah) resumes being-King of eternity.

There, once again, you're refusing to answer the question I had asked you:

So, is God the Father not your king?

Is God the Father your king? Yes or No?
Are you subject to God the Father? Yes or No?
 

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Since Jesus only does His Father's will, and (as you say) Jesus could have failed, then is it His Father's will for Jesus to fail?

He was born mortal. All have free will. Satan knows 100% God cannot be tempted and he wouldnt waste his time trying to tempt God. He did tempt Jesus in the wilderness and Jesus answered him back. It is to Jehovah alone one must render sacred service.
 

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There, once again, you're refusing to answer the question I had asked you:



Is God the Father your king? Yes or No?
Are you subject to God the Father? Yes or No?
Jehovah is my God, Jesus is the current king, appointed to that position by my God. Thus its my Gods will i serve Jesus as king at present, until this occurs-1Cor 15:24-28--Its that simple.
 

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Jehovah is my God, Jesus is the current king, appointed to that position by my God. Thus its my Gods will i serve Jesus as king at present, until this occurs-1Cor 15:24-28--Its that simple.

I asked you:

Is God the Father your king? Yes or No?

kjw47: <NO ANSWER>

Either God the Father is your king, or He is not your king. Which is it? Why do you refuse to answer this question?


Are you subject to God the Father? Yes or No?

kjw47: <NO ANSWER>

Either you are subject to God the Father, or you are not subject to Him. Which is it? Why do you refuse to answer this question?
 

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Rutherford wasnt a prophet,

By making the prophecy, "Proof conclusive that millions now living will never die," in addition to what he said in the book, he made himself a prophet, and a false prophet at that.

That phrase is on the cover of his book (and on the title page) which was published in 1921, and in addition to that, on page 230, he writes:


"Twelve-hundred sixty years from A. D. 539 brings us to 1799--another proof that 1799 definitely marks the beginning of "the time of the end". This also shows that it is from the date 539 A. D. that the other prophetic days of Daniel must be counted."

. . .

Applying the same rule, then, of a day for a year, 1335 days after 539 A. D. brings us to A. D. 1874, at which time according to Biblical chronology, the Lord's second presence is due."



And he has died

Indeed he did, and he died without his prophecy coming to pass. That makes him a false prophet.

and paid his wages of sin.

And he will face God on judgement day for rejecting Him.

Light has grown very bright since those days.

Meaningless nonsense.
 

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You had said:


So, I asked you:




kjw47: <NO ANSWER>

Is your president, Nathan Knorr, a leader of a kingdom? Yes or No?

Even a 10 year old knows only the president of a country is leader over a kingdom. Trying to twist things is not a nice thing to try to do.
 

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I asked you:



kjw47: <NO ANSWER>

Either God the Father is your king, or He is not your king. Which is it? Why do you refuse to answer this question?




kjw47: <NO ANSWER>


Either you are subject to God the Father, or you are not subject to Him. Which is it? Why do you refuse to answer this question?

You must be an alien, its obvious you cant understand english.
 

kjw47

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By making the prophecy, "Proof conclusive that millions now living will never die," in addition to what he said in the book, he made himself a prophet, and a false prophet at that.

That phrase is on the cover of his book (and on the title page) which was published in 1921, and in addition to that, on page 230, he writes:


"Twelve-hundred sixty years from A. D. 539 brings us to 1799--another proof that 1799 definitely marks the beginning of "the time of the end". This also shows that it is from the date 539 A. D. that the other prophetic days of Daniel must be counted."

. . .

Applying the same rule, then, of a day for a year, 1335 days after 539 A. D. brings us to A. D. 1874, at which time according to Biblical chronology, the Lord's second presence is due."





Indeed he did, and he died without his prophecy coming to pass. That makes him a false prophet.



And he will face God on judgement day for rejecting Him.



Meaningless nonsense.

Everything is meaningless to you unless you think its true. How sad for you. I have proved much of what i said out of the bible. Yes He erred in his thinking. He alone will stand in judgement for his life choices, best to worry about ones own life choices. He did uncover many truths along with his errors. Who is perfect? He again only had error filled trinity translations to go by.
 

kjw47

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You say Jesus is a god. Is Jehovah a god?

Also, since you say Jesus is a god, whose god would you say Jesus is?

Small g god isnt calling that one the God-capitol G God does in 99.9% of all cases. But God told Moses-i have made you God to Pharoah, yet Moses was not the true living God. Small g god carries the meaning-has godlike qualities. Jehovah is The God.
 
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