The Sound of Freedom

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Sex trafficking of any sort is despicable and also in the public awareness. I'm not inclined to give credence to a film where the central character espouses Qanon garbage along with the actor who portrays him. Sensationalist rubbish doesn't help anything and there's more than enough criticism of the film and the claims being made within it. Don't like it? Eh, ain't my fault.
What did Tim Ballard or Jim Caviezel fabricate about the movie, AB?
 

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Sex trafficking of any sort is despicable and also in the public awareness. I'm not inclined to give credence to a film where the central character espouses Qanon garbage along with the actor who portrays him. Sensationalist rubbish doesn't help anything and there's more than enough criticism of the film and the claims being made within it. Don't like it? Eh, ain't my fault.
What is the specific Qanon claim/theory that you don't like, or don't agree with?

And weren't you claiming it was the "actor", not the character who mentioned this theory?

Since when do we boycott a film because an "actor" does, or believes, something in their private life that we don't necessarily agree with?

If the movie is opening the eyes of hundreds of millions about a very important topic, it really doesn't matter all that much what the actors believe. MANY actors are atheist, or New Age, but they make movies that cause a significant shift in the public's awareness of important topics all the time.

How is it that you've decided the public is aware "enough" of the unspeakable crimes taking place upon children that go to the very top of the power eschelon in our world?

Has that "acceptable-to-you" level of awareness lessened these crimes in the least? Not likely.
 

Arthur Brain

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What is the specific Qanon claim/theory that you don't like, or don't agree with?

And weren't you claiming it was the "actor", not the character who mentioned this theory?

Since when do we boycott a film because an "actor" does, or believes, something in their private life that we don't necessarily agree with?

If the movie is opening the eyes of hundreds of millions about a very important topic, it really doesn't matter all that much what the actors believe. MANY actors are atheist, or New Age, but they make movies that cause a significant shift in the public's awareness of important topics all the time.

How is it that you've decided the public is aware "enough" of the unspeakable crimes taking place upon children that go to the very top of the power eschelon in our world?

Has that "acceptable-to-you" level of awareness lessened these crimes in the least? Not likely.
The whole of Qanon is just absolute out there wingnut garbage, all of it. As bat crazy as it gets. Both Caviezel and Ballard have touted the loony tunes outfit. If you think that this movie has suddenly brought sex trafficking to the attention of the public where there was non beforehand or something then you're far from up to speed.
 

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Who knows? Seems kinda vague but certainly odd and Ballard himself is pretty quiet on the subject.

There's criticism all over the place for this film:

Why do you heed what vain talkers who like to call themselves "Vice" have to say?


vice: "criminal activities involving prostitution, pornography, or drugs."

 

Arthur Brain

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What did Tim Ballard or Jim Caviezel fabricate about the movie, AB?
Ballard would hardly be likely to criticize a film which shows him as some sort of hero and Caviezel's hardly going to do the same either as they're both Qanon adherents. You wanna buy into it without question then hey, go ahead.
 

Arthur Brain

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So spreading negativity about it without knowing the facts about it is not a conspiracy theory?


By leftist wingnut conspiracy theories.
Well, no. The controversy and criticism surrounding OUR and Ballard has largely come from those involved in anti sex trafficking.
 

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If you think that this movie has suddenly brought sex trafficking to the attention of the public where there was non beforehand or something then you're far from up to speed.
Where did I say that?

The public has had this topic presented many times and not a single thing has changed, has it?

So what? We just stop?

Stop making movies that force the public to face the facts of what's happening to our children? Bet you'd be all for that if your kid disappeared, wouldn't you?

There are certainly topics that don't benefit anybody to be spoken of in public, but 2 million children a year being kidnapped and murdered in unimaginable ways is not one of them.

Your intent to silence the topic speaks volumes about your credibility.
 

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Sex trafficking of any sort is despicable and also in the public awareness. I'm not inclined to give credence to a film where the central character espouses Qanon garbage along with the actor who portrays him. Sensationalist rubbish doesn't help anything and there's more than enough criticism of the film and the claims being made within it. Don't like it? Eh, ain't my fault.

Can you at least acknowledge that the main thrust of the movie is the condemnation of trafficking?
 

Tambora

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Ballard would hardly be likely to criticize a film which shows him as some sort of hero and Caviezel's hardly going to do the same either as they're both Qanon adherents. You wanna buy into it without question then hey, go ahead.
Without question????
That sounds more like what you are doing.
Tim Ballard is an eye witness of the horrors of child trafficking and has risked his own life to save hundreds and hundreds of children, you and I are not eye witnesses.
So between you, me, and Tim Ballard which is more qualified to speak on the subject?
 

Arthur Brain

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Where did I say that?

The public has had this topic presented many times and not a single thing has changed, has it?

So what? We just stop?

Stop making movies that force the public to face the facts of what's happening to our children? Bet you'd be all for that if your kid disappeared, wouldn't you?
No, I wouldn't. If you wanna discuss reasonably without hyperbole then let me know.
 

Arthur Brain

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Without question????
That sounds more like what you are doing.
Tim Ballard is an eye witness of the horrors of child trafficking and has risked his own life to save hundreds and hundreds of children, you and I are not eye witnesses.
So between you, me, and Tim Ballard which is more qualified to speak on the subject?
Of course we're not eye witnesses but you seem to be taking his exploits at face value without question. There's plenty who take issue with OUR and Ballard and are you going to just dismiss their criticism?
 

Arthur Brain

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So show what they said.
Sure:


But while talking about his new movie Sound of Freedom, Caviezel went on a wild tangent about a QAnon conspiracy theory called “adrenochroming.” The event’s 4,500-strong crowd had a decent showing of raised hands when asked if they were familiar with the term. Essentially, it’s an insane theory rooted in anti-Semitism (and the Pixar film Monsters, Inc.) that liberal elites and members of Hollywood are secretly killing children in order to harvest adrenochrome from their blood for psychedelic experiences, satanic rituals, and even to extend their lifespan.
 
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