ECT the Sixth Hour in John 19:14.

[0scar]

we know that jesus was not crucified the 14th Nisan
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104521

and we know Jesus was not crucified the 15th nisan neither
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104628

what is the problem accepting that Jesus was on trial by pilate a day by noon and crucified NEXT morning?

 

[lifeisgood]

we know that jesus was not crucified the 14th Nisan
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104521

and we know Jesus was not crucified the 15th nisan neither
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104628

what is the problem accepting that Jesus was on trial by pilate a day by noon and crucified NEXT morning?

The Jews were rushing so they could eat the Passover meal and finish before morning or daylight, as they are commended in Exodus to do it early and be ready to leave by morning.

It would be far TOO LATE in the day. It would actually be close to the END of that day, and close to the BEGINNING of the Sabbath day, wherein everyone was to rest, not still deal with the Passover work.

 

[Jacob]

we know that jesus was not crucified the 14th Nisan
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104521

How do you know that? Would you say it was a Friday (or the sixth DAY of the week) and not the day before a high day or that the high day would have been the seventh day of the week?

and we know Jesus was not crucified the 15th nisan neither
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104628

what is the problem accepting that Jesus was on trial by pilate a day by noon and crucified NEXT morning?

The text doesn't relate a day transpiring between His trial and His crucifixion.

 

[0scar]

How do you know that?

WE know that (Jesus not crucified the 14th) because it is discussed in its thread very cleraly.

 

[0scar]

The text doesn't relate a day transpiring between His trial and His crucifixion.

Jesus was at Pilate by noon. this is a FACT
following that
Jesus was crucified by 9am. this is another FACT

are you saying that it refers to the same day? first noon and after 9am same day? time going backward?

 

[0scar]

John 4:6
and Jacob’s well was there. So Jesus, being wearied from His journey, was sitting thus by the well. It was about the sixth hour.


John 19:14
Now it was the day of preparation for the Passover; it was about the sixth hour. And he *said to the Jews, “Behold, your King!”

 

[0scar]

John 19:14 (AMP) | In Context | Whole Chapter
14 Now it was the day of Preparation for the Passover, and it was about the sixth hour (about twelve o’clock noon). He said to the Jews, See, [here is] your King!
















John 19:14 (CEB) | In Context | Whole Chapter


14 It was about noon on the Preparation Day for the Passover. Pilate said to the Jewish leaders, “Here’s your king.”






















John 19:14 (CJB) | In Context | Whole Chapter


14 it was about noon on Preparation Day for Pesach. He said to the Judeans, “Here’s your king!”






















John 19:14 (CEV) | In Context | Whole Chapter


14 It was about noon on the day before Passover, and Pilate said to the crowd, “Look at your king!”


John 19:14 (ERV) | In Context | Whole Chapter


14 It was now almost noon on Preparation day of Passover week. Pilate said to the Jews, “Here is your king!”


John 19:14 (EXB) | In Context | Whole Chapter


14 It was about ·noon [L the sixth hour; C hours were counted from dawn, about 6 AM] on Preparation Day of Passover week. Pilate said to ·the crowd [L the Jews], “·Here is your king! [L Look, your king! or Look at your king!]”



John 19:14 (GNT) | In Context | Whole Chapter


14 It was then almost noon of the day before the Passover. Pilate said to the people, “Here is your king!”






John 19:14 (ISV) | In Context | Whole Chapter


14 Now it was the Preparation Day for the Passover, about noon. He told the Jewish leaders, “Here is your king!”



























John 19:13-14 (PHILLIPS) | In Context | Whole Chapter


13-14 When Pilate heard this, he led Jesus outside and sat down upon the Judgment-seat in the place called the Pavement (in Hebrew, Gabbatha). It was preparation day of the Passover and it was now getting on towards midday. Pilate said to the Jews, “Look, here’s your king!”





John 19:14 (TLB) | In Context | Whole Chapter


14 It was now about noon of the day before Passover.

And Pilate said to the Jews, “Here is your king!”






















John 19:13-14 (MSG) | In Context | Whole Chapter


13-14 When Pilate heard those words, he led Jesus outside. He sat down at the judgment seat in the area designated Stone Court (in Hebrew, Gabbatha). It was the preparation day for Passover. The hour was noon. Pilate said to the Jews, “Here is your king.”


John 19:14 (NABRE) | In Context | Whole Chapter


14 It was preparation day for Passover, and it was about noon. And he said to the Jews, “Behold, your king!”






John 19:14 (NCV) | In Context | Whole Chapter


14 It was about noon on Preparation Day of Passover week. Pilate said to the crowd, “Here is your king!”






















John 19:14 (NET) | In Context | Whole Chapter


14 (Now it was the day of preparation for the Passover, about noon.) Pilate said to the Jewish leaders, “Look, here is your king!”






















John 19:14 (NIRV) | In Context | Whole Chapter


14 It was about noon on Preparation Day in Passover Week.

“Here is your king,” Pilate said to the Jews.






















John 19:14 (NIV) | In Context | Whole Chapter


14 It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon.

“Here is your king,” Pilate said to the Jews.




























John 19:14 (NIVUK) | In Context | Whole Chapter


14 It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon.

‘Here is your king,’ Pilate said to the Jews.






John 19:14 (NLV) | In Context | Whole Chapter


14 It was the day to get ready for the special religious gathering to remember how the Jews left Egypt. It was about noon. Pilate said to the Jews, “See, your King!”

John 19:14 (NLT) | In Context | Whole Chapter
14 It was now about noon on the day of preparation for the Passover. And Pilate said to the people, “Look, here is your king!”

John 19:14 (NRSV) | In Context | Whole Chapter
14 Now it was the day of Preparation for the Passover; and it was about noon. He said to the Jews, “Here is your King!”

John 19:14 (NRSVA) | In Context | Whole Chapter
14 Now it was the day of Preparation for the Passover; and it was about noon. He said to the Jews, ‘Here is your King!’

John 19:14 (NRSVACE) | In Context | Whole Chapter
14 Now it was the day of Preparation for the Passover; and it was about noon. He said to the Jews, ‘Here is your King!’

John 19:14 (NRSVCE) | In Context | Whole Chapter
14 Now it was the day of Preparation for the Passover; and it was about noon. He said to the Jews, “Here is your King!”

Yochanan 19:14 (OJB) | In Context | Whole Chapter
14 Now Erev Pesach was fast approaching, the sha’ah (hour, time) being about the shishit (sixth, the sixth hour, about noon, i.e.,with Erev Pesach coming at sundown), and Pilate says to those of Yehudah, Hinei your Melech!

 

[0scar]

John 19:14 (WE) | In Context | Whole Chapter


14 It was about the middle of the day before the Passover Feast. Pilate said to the Jews, `See, here is your King!'

 

[Jacob]

WE know that (Jesus not crucified the 14th) because it is discussed in its thread very clearly.

It was the day before a high day, and if the 15th was a high day a possibility would then be the 14th.

Jesus was at Pilate by noon. this is a FACT
following that
Jesus was crucified by 9am. this is another FACT

Again, 9am (or, the third hour) may have preceded noon (or, the sixth hour).

are you saying that it refers to the same day? first noon and after 9am same day? time going backward?

No. I'm saying you may have the hours reversed (as to which comes first if it be in one day) and you insert a night plus daytimes between them. The events you attach to the ho urs may not attach properly the way you do, thus leading to your confusion. If you are wrong, that is my guess how.

 

[0scar]

It was the day before a high day, and if the 15th was a high day a possibility would then be the 14th.

Again, 9am (or, the third hour) may have preceded noon (or, the sixth hour).


No. I'm saying you may have the hours reversed (as to which comes first if it be in one day) and you insert a night plus daytimes between them. The events you attach to the ho urs may not attach properly the way you do, thus leading to your confusion. If you are wrong, that is my guess how.

OK
aloud me to correct the time. 9am first and noon later

at 9am (third hour) Jesus is at the Golgothat already crucified.
3 hour later, at noon (sixth hour) Jesus is at the Golgotha being trial by Pilate, not yet sentenced.
from noon to 3pm (nineth hour) Jesus is aat the cross in the Golgotha a darkness hapening, while he is also at the Gabatha where Pilate present him and Barrabas to the jew, and eventually sentence him.

Is it like this you like it?

 

[Jacob]

OK
aloud me to correct the time. 9am first and noon later

at 9am (third hour) Jesus is at the Golgothat already crucified.
3 hour later, at noon (sixth hour) Jesus is at the Golgotha being trial by Pilate, not yet sentenced.
from noon to 3pm (nineth hour) Jesus is aat the cross in the Golgotha a darkness hapening, while he is also at the Gabatha where Pilate present him and Barrabas to the jew, and eventually sentence him.

Is it like this you like it?

Again, you may have the hours right now and the details wrong.

 

[0scar]

Again, you may have the hours right now and the details wrong.

OK. acording to John 19:14, where was Jesus at noon?

 

[Jacob]

OK. acording to John 19:14, where was Jesus at noon?

I don't know that it says.

 

[0scar]

I don't know that it says.

John 19:14 say that at noon Jesus was at the gabbatha being trial by Pilate, not yet sentenced.
If you dont know that or if you choose to ignore Scripture you are not qualified to ddiscuss this thread.

 

[Jacob]

John 19:14 say that at noon Jesus was at the gabbatha being trial by Pilate, not yet sentenced.
If you dont know that or if you choose to ignore Scripture you are not qualified to ddiscuss this thread.

No. I would say the same for the third hour. We do not know automatically what occurred at those hours. There may be explanations beyond what you are presenting and pigeon-holing yourself with.

 

[0scar]

No. I would say the same for the third hour. We do not know automatically what occurred at those hours. There may be explanations beyond what you are presenting and pigeon-holing yourself with.

You are saying that Jesus is not God, he did never resurrect, and we aare lost in our sins. All verses saying that Jesus is God, that he resurrected and that we are saved from our sins, it wight be another explanation.

Good. You choosse to ignore scripture when contradict tradition.

 

[Jacob]

You are saying that Jesus is not God, he did never resurrect, and we aare lost in our sins. All verses saying that Jesus is God, that he resurrected and that we are saved from our sins, it wight be another explanation.

Good. You choosse to ignore scripture when contradict tradition.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I have said no such thing. Read the post again if you may.

 

[0scar]

13 When Pilate heard these words, he brought Jesus outside and sat down on the judgment seat in a place called The Pavement, which in Hebrew is called Gabbatha. 14 Now it was the Preparation Day for the Passover, about noon. He told the Jewish leaders, “Here is your king!”

Where was Jesus at noon?

 

[Jacob]

13 When Pilate heard these words, he brought Jesus outside and sat down on the judgment seat in a place called The Pavement, which in Hebrew is called Gabbatha. 14 Now it was the Preparation Day for the Passover, about noon. He told the Jewish leaders, “Here is your king!”

Where was Jesus at noon?

It might not say. It may just say what day it was. But you say it wasn't the 14th though it says it was.

 

[0scar]

It might not say. It may just say what day it was. But you say it wasn't the 14th though it says it was.

we are not discusing the day, we are discusing the time

13 When Pilate heard these words, he brought Jesus outside and sat down on the judgment seat in a place called The Pavement, which in Hebrew is called Gabbatha. 14 Now it was the Preparation Day for the Passover, about noon. He told the Jewish leaders, “Here is your king!”

Where was Jesus at noon?