The Simple Process of Salvation Refutes All Religions
- Thread starter Robert Pate
- Start date
God's Truth
New member
Jesus obeyed and that is why we have him to come to for salvation.
Jesus SAYS he obeyed and tells us we have to obey him.
John 15:10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commands and remain in his love.
God's Truth
New member
Why do you keep saying that? If you knew what you were saying, then you would know that you are saying all Gentiles are saved.
ALL the Gentiles were the enemies. They were UNcircumcised. They did not obey.
Colossians 1:21 Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior.
Reconciled while enemies is about the GENTILES not having to become a Jew first and get CIRCUMCISED.
Colossians 2:13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins,
God's Truth
New member
You say all non obeyers are saved!
You both are so mixed up and do not understand what you are saying.
fishrovmen
Active member
It's all good because I believe in Calvinism so much that I don't believe in it. And I can't wait to be judged because I already was judged. And that's because I called on Christ to save me, having never called on Him and I never received the Holy Spirit who resides within me.
These dime a dozen platitudes of scripture get old. How about actual theology instead of repeating favorable verses :chuckle:
It takes a special kind of moron to thinks saying 'Jesus saves believers' somehow refutes historical theology. It's gotten damn redundant- don't you have more than that?
Presumably not
It takes a special kind of moron to thinks saying 'Jesus saves believers' somehow refutes historical theology. It's gotten damn redundant- don't you have more than that?
Presumably not
They are saved just like all that believe - obviously it's more than just saying it - it is called faith, dummy
Anyone that changes the gospel, like mormons are not saved -
Galatians 1:8-9 KJV -
beloved57
Well-known member
When Jesus Christ obedience, He made many righteous Rom 5:19!
beloved57
Well-known member
Those Christ obeyed for obeyed through Christ.
God's Truth
New member
You said the enemies. You said enemies are non obeyers. You say all are non obeyers.
beloved57
Well-known member
The scriptures says that they who Christ died for are reconciled to God while they are enemies Rom 5:10 and they are made righteous Rom 5:19
God's Truth
New member
I know what you say. You say Jesus saves the enemies. So then you are saying the non enemies are not saved. With your twisted beliefs, you say those who obey are not saved.
beloved57
Well-known member
I gave you the scriptures!
God's Truth
New member
...but they have faith that Christ died for them. Didn't you say that is all that matters?
God's Truth
New member
You twisted them because you don't understand them.
God's Truth
New member
They obeyed? How did they obey? I have been saying all along that that the saved are those who obey.
beloved57
Well-known member
Christ obeyed for them, they themselves were enemies and disobedient.
God's Truth
New member
Christ obeyed for EVERYONE. All disobeyed.
beloved57
Well-known member
No He didn't, all have not been made righteous.