Strange Preacher
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Jesus is followed by many who find traditional garb ill-fitting. Our spiritual apparel is not to everyone's taste. Each to his own.
TulipBee, are you a Fundamentalist Christian, i.e.: read the scriptures literally?
Good stuff Strangepreacher! Welcome to TOL and welcome to the thread!
Yes! Been a card carrying nutcase for quite a while now. ? I do enjoy a good debate. The man that brought me to Christ was a Fundamentalist Christian, so I've a lot of love for that community. I respect and admire their faith even if I don't share their beliefs.Another "NUTCASE" added to the "Urantia Clan!"
Jesus is followed by many who find traditional garb ill-fitting. Our spiritual apparel is not to everyone's taste. Each to his own.
Yes! Been a card carrying nutcase for quite a while now. ? I do enjoy a good debate. The man that brought me to Christ was a Fundamentalist Christian, so I've a lot of love for that community. I respect and admire their faith even if I don't share their beliefs.
Breathed by God is very accurate
Defending your claims that the inspired writers made errors when they didn't make a single one.
I found proofs the 66 book Bible isn't written by men alone. It's not what it said. It's that the the hands of the writers were moved by God himself, word for word, letter by letter.
The ub writers were moved by unfamiliar spirits who fail the tests, failed to know Jesus.
You give praises to ub written as truths while you give your own creator a stab in the back cause you agree that God made errors in his own words.
Angels saves you while Jesus saves us, the whatchamacallit Christians.
The failed angels made you think it's the truths. They know how to do it to you. The true angels know God and the truths. The fallen ones are liairs and what you to fail.
This topic is epic fail cause it contains great hidden lies.
Urantians are the real trolls of TOL.
Requirements in the rules are to be Christians.
1000th post. Jesus saves, not celestials.
That Jesus saves because He is the Creator-Son of this planet, this very universe, is a logical rational conclusion
Cosmic beings, celestials, angels, ministering spirits of various kind, order and rank serve in their respective fields and duties. They assist mankind for sure, and attend many other things beyond our knowledge.
See: Is Jesus the Savior?
God's true words are necessaryGod being perfect may not err, but man is imperfect. The doctrine of 'innerancy' then applied to a religious book is unnecessary, unreasonable, since it is written by men. Inspiration may be more or less in any given writing, and the quality of the reception, the individual serving as the 'medium' of the message also can colour or modify the original message, thru the 'distortion' of 'translation' and further 'interpretation'. The Spirit of truth is the teacher, since what is spiritual is spiritually discerned.
Since you're claiming total inerrancy for the Bible, the burden of proof is on you to provide enough evidence to verify your claim. Any truth in the UB, or any other religious work or revelation, stands upon the testimony of its own integrity, content, the values, meanings and principles it espouses, the wisdom and inspiration of the Spirit it contains, however it serves to facilitate genuine worship, service, desire for right-doing, transformation of consciousness. Remember, we judge a book by its contents, not its 'cover'.
Calling me a troll here while I priase God's word. Ub's fight to claim the Bible has errors and not good enough, Nice. This topic IS the troll of TOL and you cry to stay here'God' who is Life itself, is living proof of Himself, since existence itself, is Self-evident, Self-realizing, Self-cognizant. I AM.
Part 4 covers every year of the life of Jesus and much more, I don't see how that 'fails' to respect or give glory to Jesus :idunno:
Truth is truth, wherever it may be found. Truth is dynamic, living. Some books may be better containers or conductors of truth. Pick and choose wisely.
As already stated, the UB does NOT teach God himself can make errors as He is perfect. All errors of mistranslation, misinterpretation, misunderstanding are due to the mortal finite limitations of man.
Sadly you're still engaged in polemics and polarizing 2 groups of people,...'Christians' who believe as you do,...and then 'UB readers' or any religionist that does not hold the Bible to be infallible,...as the 'other group', the 'enemy', etc.,.....an 'us vs. them' mentality. God is One. Humanity is one.
Truth or universal wisdom is so above such petty duality plays or 'divine and conquer' memes. Truth is One. God is a manifold Unity. Reality and its habits or laws, all derive from one Creative Source.
The message of the UB is wholly 'Christ-centered' since Jesus is our Creator Son, the Sorvereign Lord and Planetary Prince of our planet and the entire universe of Nebadon, but the papers call it more 'Jesusonian' in flavor, since a new dispensation of truth about Jesus and his religion has been given. We've covered what 'Jesusonian' means and its 3 or 4 times mentioned in the papers, in context. The religion of Jesus is based on the truth of the Fatherhood of God and Brotherhood of man, that man by faith in God, revealing that he is God's child, can be saved,....and live eternally by DOING God's will, in service to God and others, in this world, and in all worlds to come. Its a very fundamental universal principle of life, that by loving the Creator of life and aspiring to be like Him, in loving willful union, is essential in realizing one's purpose and fulfilling one's reason for being, in the creative and eternally progressive sense. Such faith and willing to do God's will, ensures that one has eternal survival (salvation/immortality).
Angels appeared to many in the Bible and in other religious records of other faiths,...and they are believed in by those people. Remember, we judge any teaching, concept, idea, ideal, principle by its own meaning and value. We judge any message or teaching from any source whatsoever, by the message itself, its nature and character. Study the message. Get the message.
The topic is highly significant for religious discussion, as it also includes the whole of science and philosophy in this age and the coming new age. If any writing has 'truth', honors and reveals 'truth', it is truthful to that extent. The Spirit of truth confirms and illuminates truth.
See: Truth in the Urantia Book
Ahhhh, you're such a sweet heart.
This is the 'Religion' section. There is a forum just for 'Exclusive Christian Theology' if you're interested. Isn't it lovely to have so many options?
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Lying celestials are low ranksThat Jesus saves because He is the Creator-Son of this planet, this very universe, is a logical rational conclusion
Cosmic beings, celestials, angels, ministering spirits of various kind, order and rank serve in their respective fields and duties. They assist mankind for sure, and attend many other things beyond our knowledge.
See: Is Jesus the Savior?
That Jesus saves because He is the Creator-Son of this planet, this very universe, is a logical rational conclusion
Cosmic beings, celestials, angels, ministering spirits of various kind, order and rank serve in their respective fields and duties. They assist mankind for sure, and attend many other things beyond our knowledge.
See: Is Jesus the Savior?
[Presented by a Mighty Messenger visiting on Urantia, by request of the Nebadon Revelatory Corps and in collaboration with a certain Melchizedek, the vicegerent Planetary Prince of Urantia.]
"People don't reject the Bible because it contradicts itself, but because it contradicts them."