A few explanations.........
A few explanations.........
Is this based on 'Paul like' communion with the Spirit of the Lord Jesus and the accompanying intuitive revelations from same? The Spirit of the Lord Jesus is the Spirit of Truth/Spirit of Intercession. This Spirit passes all knowledge (All Truth). This is achieved intuitively, i.e. through a connection between the spirit of an individual person and the Spirit of the Lord Jesus.
Clearly Paul could not deliver in physically spoken and physically written words, all that this Spirit of Jesus can and did deliver intuitively to him (nor can any other human person do so).
Therefore there are always new things to be delivered (in physical spoken and physical written words) by people (i.e. intuits), who are in live spirit/intuitive communion with Jesus in His Spirit.
Gurucam,
For those interested in the UB, the OP and the dialogues in the thread cover the essentials and more. We recently haven't been engaging this thread much, since so much is already been discussed here, it being a very large thread, and only this one thread is allowed on this subject (owner's allowance/restrictions). If you want to engage general discussion on NT theology in particular,
another thread might be more appropriate.
Concerning your points above,....the 'papers' came thru mysterious means, and were given in response to various questions posed by members of a forum,....the answers were supposedly from celestial personalities (the 'revelators') of various orders associated with this local universe system, of which 'Urantia' (our 'Earth') is one inhabited planet. More info. can be found in the OP or using the 'search thread' feature on any given subject.
Individually all souls are indwelt with a
spirit-fragment of God, which the papers call the 'Thought Adjuster',...it is
pure spirit. It is that pre-personal essence of God indwelling the mind, which can later be wholly 'personalized' and 'immortalited' by fusing with the evolving mortal soul, when the choice is made for eternal survival and that spiritual merging and 'new birth' of the Spirit takes place, thereby immortalizing that soul-personality, giving it eternal life.
In spirituality, of course, there is a spiritual communion of one's own soul-spirit with the divine Spirit. Intuition is one of the functions of spirit. As Paul taught, 'spiritual things are spiritually discerned'. - I agree with some of Paul's teachings but not all.
However the question must be asked: To what extent do the things in the Urantia Papers reaffirm (and not oppose or dismiss) the information in the KJV N.T. which came through Paul?
I don't see where there needs to be a corrobation or 'standard' given by Paul's claims of the 'revelatory process', since the papers came thru superhuman means of a mysterious nature involving one human 'medium' (using the 'thought-adjuster' of this individual) and a 'materialization' process by which some of the papers appeared. Otherwise, any spiritual knowledge or concepts shared by Paul, may be in agreement with what is shared in the papers, as far as spiritual realities and realms are concerned. Much is given in the papers on the soul's relationship to the 'thought-adjuster' (communion with God on an inner level)...and the Spirit-personalities and forces existing outside the soul, but inter-acting with.
Fact is the true "knower" does not read or listen to the words and/or papers of others. He get All his knowledge or Truth directly from Jesus through an intuitive connection between his own spirit and the Spirit of the Lord Jesus. This is the only path to Truth, i.e. correct knowledge. All other approaches are simply sad consolations.
I understand that on a purely spiritual level, we can assume spiritual discernment and communion from the level of spirit-reality. "That which is born of Spirit is spirit". It is also a fact however that we use the intellect and 'language' to 'communicate' such spiritual insights and knowledge,
as far as language can take us. Therefore 'words' serve as pointers, descriptions, explanations, representations only, of course,....since words are only words. Its how we define, use, interpret and translate them that counts
within any given context.
Another fact for you to consider is, what if you didn't have a NT or any letters of Paul from which to base your own theology? If you didn't have his writings (terms and concepts)....you wouldn't be able to 'relate' those terms now would you? Apparently you need those then,...so you cant make an absolute claim that you don't need any intellect of words to make a case for a spiritual intuition or knowledge of any kind. Purely spiritual impressions or intutions may be realized on a spirit-level....yet we all use words to describe and relate the process.
The UB is a rather large volume which goes into great depth of religious/spiritual terms, ideas, concepts, etc. but one must be familiar with (learn) the cosmological/theological context and its terms to comprehend the greater cosmic context and the individual journey of souls in their evolutionary progress towards spirit-perfection. This includes a whole network of complex relationships and associations.
pj
- its closed, but those interested can still read 5 pages worth,...there I honor the 'Mother' aspect of 'God' (the divine feminine), for one cannot neglect the 'mother' and honor his parents, since equal respect is to both parents, the male/female personas. We have both earthly and heavenly parents,...remember...."as above, so below".