beloved57
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You don't believe the blood of Christ saved them it was shed for which is unbelief.
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The Gospel Verses Predestination
- Thread starter Robert Pate
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Dear Robert: Have no fear; every last knee bows, every last mouth confesses IN/EN the Name of all names>>>"You are Lord!
But wait, there is more
In every dimension of the heavens, the earth, and the underworld.
Still more
The worship by every being, in every dimension of Abba's world responding IN Jesus Name by the drawing power of the Almighty One. Such worship is NOT by perfunctory genuflections! NOT!
No beloved57 he does not preach "your gospel"!!! Jesus Christ is the hilasmos of the holos! When you can demonstrate otherwise please post it.
"From Him, by Him, for Him."
Dear Robert: beloved57 lives within a scope that excludes anything that even hints of the Gospel exceeding his "limited" view of "the gospel" he expresses. I do appreciate what he thinks and will continue to challenge him at every convenience. He will seldom ever responds but I will join those who watch his antics. LOL
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That is NOT how it happens, AMR.
God does not save you first to have you believe and obey.
The truth is that God saves those who first believe and obey.
Your neighbor might not want to believe in Jesus---for the reason the Bible says they don't want to believe in Him!
They don't want to for the reasons the Bible says!
Do you know what the Bible says as to WHY people do not want to believe in Jesus?
I would love to tell you why; and, the reason why has NOTHING to do with God not saving them first, as the Calvinists preach.
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Go on and ask me, Chicken.
For years I have tried to get you to discuss this more with me instead of you calling my questions to your public posts 'stalking'. (Yes, people reading, yes, he really did say that to me publicly. He really did report me for replying to his posts as 'stalking' him.)
I have tried for years to get you to discuss Calvinism with me, but you always ran or just tried to silence me by having me banned. (Yes, he really did have me banned for a time, and more than once, just for my posting about my beliefs.)
Romans 10:9 says:
that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. - Romans 10:9 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans10:9&version=NKJV
God saves those who confess that Jesus is Lord and that God raised Him from the dead.
That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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Robert Pate, you don't answer because you don't know the answer.
You are going against false beliefs with false beliefs.
God's Truth
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That scripture says you have to CONFESS and believe.
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Doing ANYTHING is a 'work'.
We have to obey.
Now address what the scripture says.
IT SAYS CONFESS.
Is confessing doing SOMETHING?
How much doing is saying "I do" to your spouse?
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So now you want to go off the scriptures to your own analogies. Okay, let's try that.
Tell me did you already have to be obeying your wife BEFORE you were chosen to be married?
No.
Chosen to be married? Huh?
When the pastor asks the man if he takes the woman as his wife, does the man have to do anything at all to accept her as his wife? No, he just says "I do."
When a family member gets you a gift for Christmas, did you have to do anything to earn it? Or is it a gift, and all you need to do is take it?
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No? No you didn't do ANYTHING right before your wife and you decided to marry each other? Neither one of you did ANYTHING right?
Even in an arranged marriage the people chosen have to be doing something right.
You didn't 'choose' you wife?
You will do yourself great honor if you think about that more.
The pastor announcing or pronouncing you both as husband and wife---he dd NOT pick your wife for you, and vice versa.
Of course you had to do something, unless the gift is some kind of token gift given unwillingly.
God's gift of the Holy Spirit to us is with conditions.
First you have to be a family member! And God tells us HOW to be in His family.
No. Please, discuss this more with me. I always want to go beyond the surface of what it seems like.
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God gives His gift to His children.
What is the gift, do you even know?
Do you know how to become a child of God in order to receive the gift?
What is the gift, do you even know?
Do you know how to become a child of God in order to receive the gift?
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Back to human analogies... When a man chooses a woman he wants to marry, did she do ANYTHING that he liked in order for him to choose her, and vice versa?
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This is what God likes about those He saves:
(Anyone interested in speaking about it?)
(Anyone interested in speaking about it?)
How about returning to the OP.