If he did, then he can't be Mashiach (Messiah). Heb 4:15
The End of the Jewish Religion and the Law
- Thread starter Robert Pate
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If the Jew didn't get it the first time, he will get it the next time (Ex 4:8, Re 11).
You know him, Jesus; so when he returns, you'll be surprised. :noway: Mute point. We'll all be corrected when the two witnesses arrive (Mt 24:14, Re 11).
oly:The bride has to get her face in order, too. :freak:
If you are pro-gospel, then you are pro-Jew. No Christian can be anti-sematic. Why don't you thank a Jew for bringing you your bible.
oly: Ge 12:3popsthebuilder
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Pretty sure Christ specifically stated that he did not come to abolish the law, but to uphold it.
I really hope you haven't confused too many into thinking sin without repentance is okay. The law is written on our hearts If we are truly, fully faithful in Christ under GOD.
Peace
popsthebuilder
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Does responding to the gospel not cause one to bear good fruits as a product?
popsthebuilder
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One who believes in the Christ and God wholly will produce good works as a result. It is the law written on ones heart through the Holy Spirit that is the cause of repentance and good works by way of Christ and the mercy of GOD.
Right.
Faith in Christ brings the Holy Spirit.
It is the Holy Spirit working in the life of the believer that will produce good works and the Christian life, Ephesians 2:10.
He fulfilled it and then abolished it, Colossians 2:14.
Christians are now called to live by the Spirit and not the letter of the law, 2 Corinthians 3:6.
If you are pro-gospel, then you are pro-Jew. No Christian can be anti-sematic. Why don't you thank a Jew for bringing you your bible.
I am pro-Jew if that Jew is trusting in Christ alone for his salvation.
Most Jews are trusting in the law to save them.
The Bible was written and inspired by the Holy Spirit.
Nanja
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Incorrect. First comes the Holy Spirit upon one in New Birth, then comes Faith!
It's imperative to understand that Faith is a Fruit of the Spirit Gal. 5:22 given John 3:27 in New Birth,
when a person is Born Again / Born of the Spirit. For that's the only kind of Faith in Christ which pleases God:
Rom. 8:7-9
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
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2 Pe 1:21, Rom. 2:28, 29
You cannot be against Israel and be a real Christian (Ru 1:17).
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WRONG!!!!
Ephesians 2:8-9 King James Version (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
One does not have the Spirit until they re saved.
popsthebuilder
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But one can have hope and Faith prior to being saved.
This isn't true. Being "saved" in the Christian sense of the term is not our purpose. You are projecting your beliefs onto us.
I believe he would either say something like many try to be good by doing good things (they would not suffer what the sinner suffers at least according to them), or that salvation is not found in law keeping (even though I believe law keeping is good) ... at least I can say this from my vantage point.
Many people do not recognize all the reasons for their approach, whether different or something that can be agreed upon.
beloved57
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Amen!
You are in conflict with the scripture as usual.
"This only would I learn of you, Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law (because you did something?) or by the hearing of faith" (Hearing and believing the Gospel) Galatians 3:2.