Dave, on a flat earth, how does the sun get to the other side overnight?
The earth is flat and we never went to the moon
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I have presented video and photos that answer your question. The question now before you is the reliability of our senses, it is the most important one because it is at the foundation of all the other questions.
--Dave
P.S. I will though answer your question again but I want these two alleged fallacies addresses first.
Dave, you have repeatedly avoided answering these basic questions, which Knight has pointed out in this post.
1. Why does the sun set below the horizon in a flat earth model?
2. Why does the sun always appear to be a circle?
Stop playing games Dave. Don't send us more links to videos. Just answer.
I have answered. That you don't like it or agree with it is OK with me.
Everything eventually disappears below the horizon as it moves away from us beyond a distance we can see. The light from a small sun that is close to the earth does not cover the whole earth.
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The heart of the question is what are we "seeing", a small sun that circles a large flat earth or a small globe earth that circles the large sun.
Our senses tell us one thing and science tells us the other. How reliable are our senses?
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Your answer is a load of crock. I think you know that, but can't give up on your flat earth because you are convinced that the Word of God (TM) says that THE EARTH IS FLAT.
You can't deal with reality not matching your interpretation of the Bible. Somethings got to give- so you've given up on reality.
Dave... all I want to know is can we agree that the sun must be a sphere??
I answered your question. Both models have different ways of answering it. Now answer my question, are our senses reliable as per video.
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I want to know if our senses are reliable, because if they are not then why ask me what the sun looks like.
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I'd say that generally speaking, our senses are pretty reliable.
Dave, First of all, which model (using the verse below) describes God's majesty as greater, the flat earth model, where everything above the earth is just an image/hologram, or the model that the earth is a globe spinning in space, orbiting a star which is orbiting around the center of a galaxy?
Thus says the Lord: “Heaven is My throne, And earth is My footstool. Where is the house that you will build Me? And where is the place of My rest?For all those things My hand has made, And all those things exist,” Says the Lord. “But on this one will I look: On him who is poor and of a contrite spirit, And who trembles at My word. - Isaiah 66:1-2 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah66:1-2&version=NKJV
Second, using the verses above, which model of the universe fits the statement that "all those things exist", the flat earth model, or the globe earth?
Literally speaking, the Bible favors flat stationary earth, but figuratively a case can be made for spinning globe.
The sun and moon do not have to be holograms in the flat earth model.
--Dave
Dave, please stop trying to obfuscate and clearly answer the questions I asked you:
First of all, which model (using the verse below) describes God's majesty as greater, the flat earth model, where everything above the earth is just an image/hologram, or the model that the earth is a globe spinning in space, orbiting a star which is orbiting around the center of a galaxy?
A) Flat Earth model
B) Globe Earth model
Thus says the Lord: "Heaven is My throne, And earth is My footstool. Where is the house that you will build Me? And where is the place of My rest?For all those things My hand has made, And all those things exist," Says the Lord. "But on this one will I look: On him who is poor and of a contrite spirit, And who trembles at My word." - Isaiah 66:1-2 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah66:1-2&version=NKJV
Second, using the verses above, which model of the universe fits the statement that "all those things exist", the flat earth model, or the globe earth model?
A) Flat Earth model
B) Globe Earth model
Dave, you prefer those videos over both your own senses and over what science tells us. And now you are asking about the reliable of our senses.
Your thinking is very confused.
I give up. Enjoy your delusions.
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The sun goes to hell. :think:
Where is heaven in the globe model?
Where is heaven in the flat earth model?
--Dave
Dave, please stop trying to obfuscate and clearly answer the questions I asked you:
First of all, which model (using the verse below) describes God's majesty as greater, the flat earth model, where everything above the earth is just an image/hologram, or the model that the earth is a globe spinning in space, orbiting a star which is orbiting around the center of a galaxy?
A) Flat Earth model
B) Globe Earth model
Thus says the Lord: "Heaven is My throne, And earth is My footstool. Where is the house that you will build Me? And where is the place of My rest?For all those things My hand has made, And all those things exist," Says the Lord. "But on this one will I look: On him who is poor and of a contrite spirit, And who trembles at My word." - Isaiah 66:1-2 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah66:1-2&version=NKJV
Second, using the verses above, which model of the universe fits the statement that "all those things exist", the flat earth model, or the globe earth model?
A) Flat Earth model
B) Globe Earth model
I'm just looking for some type of agreement. If we could agree on the shape of the sun I would feel a lot better about your ability to make what I would call common sense deductions. Earlier in the thread I asked you what the shape of the moon was and you couldn't tell me. So... I thought.... that we could at least agree on what the shape of the sun is based on the videos you posted.
Can we agree the sun is a sphere?
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The answer in both cases is ABOVE IT.
Correct me if I am wrong here, but I thought we never see the "dark side of the moon" because it never faces the earth as it rotates around it.
So how can these pictures show the "dark side of the moon" with earth shine?
--Dave
Common sense is a fallacy of flat earth, I sent you all the memo/video.
We can agree about what we, from earth, actually see. The sun and moon appear round. That we see it as round from all directions on earth leads us to believe both sun and moon are spheres.
I also look for common ground, what is your opinion of flat earth being a common sense fallacy?
Are our senses reliable?
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