So I'll leave satan out of it, so nobody has to think about satan anymore. :chuckle:
The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II
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Be it known to all that "Patrick" here refers to Patrick Jane (username), real name Mark, and not Ask Mr. Religion (real name Patrick).
And let me just short-circuit the inevitable "I'm sure he is pouring over links as we speak" that will come in my case.
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Thanks fellas.
That makes no sense to me whatsoever.
Why you ask?? Why tell us the earth is actually flat and not round? Why not?? There is literally no reasonable reason not to. :idunno:
Thanks for discrediting my father's life work
You are certifiably insane.
But hey.... everyone has a right to be a moron.
musterion
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This is why it looks like you're not serious about this but are just having fun with a sure-fire attention getter, like with the controversy thread. Dave, he seems hard-core about this. It's hard to say what you really believe here.
I don't see what mentioning satan in the deception of the shape of the earth has to do with salvation. I'm serious about flat earth, geocentric earth and conspiracies. The tranny videos are just funny and some are true I think. It's hard to tell, but eliminating the two genders is part of the new age agenda.
Everybody has opinions . . . I'd rather be a moron than blinded by fake science. Your father's work was real, as I said, rockets and spacecraft etc. were designed built and launched. Did he go to the moon? Then you're just beingThanks for discrediting my father's life work
You are certifiably insane.
But hey.... everyone has a right to be a moron.
musterion
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Already explained that. Not saying you but: when FEs invoke Satan and God, they're automatically invoking evil vs good, which damn well does involve salvation (whatever they think that means) and I think you know that. Not saying some of them are calling FE the gospel, but some of them CLEARLY IMPLY this is a good/evil issue depending on which side you're on...God's or Satan's. That equals Heaven or Hell.
YOU may not think so but some of THEM do, and you're quoting them.
But when you laugh that off, I wonder how serious you really are here.
With that thinking then every single detail of every single thing is salvation related, and maybe it is. I think the memes are just saying that it's POSSIBLE that the shape of earth is part of satan's many deceptions. Aren't they simply showing what the Bible says and what evolution, big bang thinking really is? I just don't see the "you're evil if you believe the globe" nor do I see "you better believe flat earth or you're going to hell" - I just don't see that distinction being made in any of the memes I used.
Is there a single topic in the universe about which you aren't intentionally ignorant? You are the most articulate ignoramus I have ever encountered, I think. And what about all the evidence presented to you? Your cherry-picking has been sufficient to produce a single-serve fruit pie for every poster on ToL.
Having visited your marvelous, bizarre nation on a few occasions, it occurs to me that you are one of the extremely paranoid they talk about. I bet you are a survivalist, or at least you understand that paranoid way of thinking.
Anyway, on the topic of gender: no agenda has eliminated the two sexes, which is a different thing from the well-known spectrum of gender identities. You might be able to identify X and Y chromosomes but don't imagine that you are able to decide how other people feel about themselves.
Stuart
I hope having to prove something you strongly believe is not too much to expect of you.
There are many who think...the whole idea of "the Bible being literally true"...is so ludicrous as to make one look like a completely ridiculous, slobbering imbecile to the regular world.
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New thread: The seas are green. Government agents have had tiny colour filters implanted in all newborns' irises since 1924 that turn the true green water colour blue.
Stuart
You have got to be kidding me. Do not ever talk to me about proving anything - ever.
If I do it, it won't be for my benefit, it'll be for yours.
Flat earthism has exactly nothing to do with the bible. It's a stupid delusion that I'm pulling out every stop attempting to wake you from, including getting openly mocked by my own family.
Clete
The only response to this question that I've gotten amounted to basically, "If you're Satan you lie. That's what you do."
I think it was from Dave. I don't know who else it would have been.
Clete
Heliocentrism opposes a literal Biblical apocalypse
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken; 30 then will appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory;
Revelation 6:12 When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood, 13 and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale; 14 the sky vanished like a scroll that is rolled up.
Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.
There's no God, no heaven, no hell, no angel's, etc. to be found in a heliocentric universe, especially one that is evolving. Everything in Biblical eschatology conforms to flat earth with heavenly places above the dome. Once we start combining Biblical eschatology with a heliocentric universe Satan and Christ both become non-literal persons in a non-literal event depicted with non-literal vanishing sky, darkened sun, blood moon, and stars falling to earth.
--Dave
Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken; 30 then will appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory;
Revelation 6:12 When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood, 13 and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale; 14 the sky vanished like a scroll that is rolled up.
Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.
There's no God, no heaven, no hell, no angel's, etc. to be found in a heliocentric universe, especially one that is evolving. Everything in Biblical eschatology conforms to flat earth with heavenly places above the dome. Once we start combining Biblical eschatology with a heliocentric universe Satan and Christ both become non-literal persons in a non-literal event depicted with non-literal vanishing sky, darkened sun, blood moon, and stars falling to earth.
--Dave
Gravity vs Electromagnetism
Differences between gravitational and electromagnetic radiation
"So far we have been emphasizing how, at a fundamental level, the generation and propagation of gravitational and electromagnetic radiation are basically quite similar. This is a major point in demystifying gravitational waves. But, on a more practical level, gravitational and electromagnetic waves are quite different: we see and use electromagnetic waves every day, while we have yet to make a confirmed direct detection of gravitational waves (which is why they seemed so mysterious in the first place)."
Anything that is the product of one's imagination would certainly not only be mysterious but obviously beyond direct detection. The debate between flat earth and globed earth heliocentrism is a debate between what we can prove empirically and experimentally vs what is imagined and promoted through an assumed unprovable premise.
--Dave
Differences between gravitational and electromagnetic radiation
"So far we have been emphasizing how, at a fundamental level, the generation and propagation of gravitational and electromagnetic radiation are basically quite similar. This is a major point in demystifying gravitational waves. But, on a more practical level, gravitational and electromagnetic waves are quite different: we see and use electromagnetic waves every day, while we have yet to make a confirmed direct detection of gravitational waves (which is why they seemed so mysterious in the first place)."
Anything that is the product of one's imagination would certainly not only be mysterious but obviously beyond direct detection. The debate between flat earth and globed earth heliocentrism is a debate between what we can prove empirically and experimentally vs what is imagined and promoted through an assumed unprovable premise.
--Dave
Gravitational waves were recently detected. https://www.space.com/38471-gravitational-waves-neutron-star-crashes-discovery-explained.html
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