The difference between liberals and conservatives

HisServant

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Except it has become the rape capital of the world lately and will shortly be dominated by Islam and will be crushed into poverty.

America is the last bastion of freedom, but we are slowly making ourselves slaves to one another and the government.
 

genuineoriginal

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A History Lesson

Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.

The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:

1. Liberals; and
2. Conservatives.

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement.

Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girliemen.

Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare.

Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in world history: It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it. A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true believers and to more liberals just to piss them off.
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Tyrathca

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None of this has really classified what you Yanks think a liberal actually is. Apart from they're bad and aren't anarchists...
 

Tyrathca

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a liberal is okay with killing babies

Really? A person's opinion about abortion, and not their views on politics/government/economics/social policy, is the main criteria for being liberal?

That doesn't sound much like what everyone else is calling liberal either.
 

chrysostom

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Really? A person's opinion about abortion, and not their views on politics/government/economics/social policy, is the main criteria for being liberal?

it is part of the package
-you have to take the whole package
-and
-that includes killing babies
 

Tyrathca

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it is part of the package
-you have to take the whole package
-and
-that includes killing babies
And what else is in "the whole package" and are you sure it has to come with pro-choice/pro-life views? You're not making any sense.

(What am I saying? I'm talking to Chrysostom, of course it's not making sense!)
 

chrysostom

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And what else is in "the whole package" and are you sure it has to come with pro-choice/pro-life views? You're not making any sense.

liberals have only one place to go
-the place that supports unions
-the place that supports blacks
-the place that supports same sex marriage
-the place that supports killing babies
-there is no line item veto
-you get the whole package
 

HisServant

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LOL !!! America WOULD be much better off if it became more like Europe . We would have far less poverty, unemployment, hopelessness , better medical care , A MUCH LOWER ABORTION RATE THEN WE HAVE NOW , more personal freedom , far less crime, a very low murder rate, better technology, much less religious strife, and just plain more happiness .

Race to the bottom... Europe is going to hell in a hand basket.. it is becoming lawless and is losing its identity and the breakup is starting. Their brand of socialism is not economically sustainable in a multi-cultural sense.... people are migrating to Europe and feel no sense of national pride and are there only to take advantage of the benefits and lifestyle that other people earned... and they will destroy.
 

HisServant

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One could say that the founders were Tea Party members, because they thought they were paying way too many taxes and not receiving enough representation.
 

ok doser

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One could say that the founders were Tea Party members, because they thought they were paying way too many taxes and not receiving enough representation.


i'm rereading Crucible of War by Fred Anderson - a history of the french and Indian war - a great book that explains the foundational events leading to the revolutionary war


ironically, the taxes the colonists were being asked to pay had already resulted in the representation by the british military forces that ended the french and indian frontier depredations and allowed for the expansion westward of the colonial populations

those silly brits in london thought the colonists should bear some of the financial burden for those efforts :darwinsm:
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Liberal, by definition, willing to live without or against traditional values and observations in their politics and/or religion

Conservative, by definition, embraces traditional values as their own in their politics and/or religion

good at a first glance, but....



politically, slavery and segregation were once traditional values

wrt religion, all 95 of these were once "traditional" values in the Christian church:

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traditional values are often worth a second look
 

HisServant

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good at a first glance, but....



politically, slavery and segregation were traditional values

wrt religion, all of these were once "traditional" values in the Christian church:

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traditional values are often worth a second look

Understanding the reasons is the most important, and you need to look at it from the position of people living back then... not according to modern sensibilities.

Today, we are not subject to raiding and the kill or be killed mentality that existed back when that was written... there were no police.
 

Lon

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good at a first glance, but....



politically, slavery and segregation were traditional values

wrt religion, all of these were once "traditional" values in the Christian church.


traditional values are often worth a second look
It doesn't change the difference in the definition. John Adams said slavery was wrong and unscriptural as well as against our constitution.

You can be politically liberal (even a Democrat :noway: ) but be religiously conservative. Or even vise versa.

Case in point: today, many of us would change our government and rulings BUT we value both religiously and politically, what our nation was until this past century.

A bit of Liberal and Conservative mix:
I might be on page that some values could be left behind, but it makes no sense to favor the VERY few over the majority like our laws have done this past century. That is TOO liberal. If you attack your base, who are paying for these decisions, with their taxes, it progresses toward socialism. It is always about what serves most over a few. It isn't wise to or practical to go against your core group or their values, either spiritually or practically. It is cutting it's own proverbial throat to do so.

Are those supporting Trump liberal for revolutionary change? Or are they ultra-conservative wanting what Trump calls 'America great again?'

Sometimes the good ol' days aren't as good as we remember, but sometimes they really are.
 
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