"THE DAY OF THE LORD"

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Jesus Christ presently rules over His Church.

The Father oversees the world at this time.

The saints will rule over the world in the coming Kingdom.

Read Daniel.

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Day of the Lord is the same as “Lord’s day”.
There were lots of Days of the Lord back in the OT, describing the destruction of: Egypt, Jerusalem, the Northern Kingdom of Israel, the destruction Babylon, Destruction of Assyria and others.
“Day” can be translated “Court” and seems to fit better lots of times.
 
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Robert Pate said:
The Father is in heaven. Satan is in charge of the world for now, 1 John 5:19.
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I said the Father oversees the world presently.

Satan only rules over the flesh as God allows him, and Christ rules over His church, His Body.

God also has an ongoing covenant with Babylon .(Daniel)

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Lazy afternoon said:
I said the Father oversees the world presently.

Satan only rules over the flesh as God allows him, and Christ rules over His church, His Body.

God also has an ongoing covenant with Babylon .(Daniel)

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The Father is in heaven. He is not overseeing or ruling the world. When Christ appears everything is going to change. God has no covenant with the unsaved world.
 
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Robert Pate said:
The Father is in heaven. He is not overseeing or ruling the world. When Christ appears everything is going to change. God has no covenant with the unsaved world.
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Amazing!

The Father oversees the nations of the world according to His Word--

Dan 5:18 O thou king, the most high God gave Nebuchadnezzar thy father a kingdom, and majesty, and glory, and honour:
Dan 5:19 And for the majesty that he gave him, all people, nations, and languages, trembled and feared before him: whom he would he slew; and whom he would he kept alive; and whom he would he set up; and whom he would he put down.
Dan 5:20 But when his heart was lifted up, and his mind hardened in pride, he was deposed from his kingly throne, and they took his glory from him:
Dan 5:21 And he was driven from the sons of men; and his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild *****: they fed him with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven; till he knew that the most high God ruled in the kingdom of men, and that he appointeth over it whomsoever he will.

1Co 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
 
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The day of the Lord has nothing to do with the Sabbath day. It appears to me that "The Day of the Lord" is about the return of Christ. "For yourselves know perfectly that "The Day of the Lord" so comes as a thief in the night" 1 Thessalonians 5:2.

And then Peter wrote,"But "The Day of the Lord" will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up" 2 Peter 3:10.

Even some of the Old Testament prophets spoke of "The Day of the Lord" "Alas for "The Day of the Lord" is at hand, and as a destruction from the almighty shall it come" Joel 1:15.

Isaiah the prophet said, "For "The Day of the Lord" of host shall be upon everyone that is proud and lofty, and upon everyone that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low" Isaiah 2:12.

"Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in "The Day of the Lord's" wrath ; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all of them that dwell in the land" Zephaniah 1:18.

These scriptures speak of the judgment that Jesus will execute when he returns. We must assume that "The Day of the Lord" is the day of judgment. No one likes to talk about judgment, especially the unsaved, God is a God of judgment. If he didn't judge he would not be holy and righteous. His judgments are perfect and complete, unlike the judgments of men.

When Jesus appears in the Eastern sky all that are not "In Christ" will wail because of him, Revelation 1:7. All that have rejected him and his Gospel, will hide in caves and call for the rocks to fall on them, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"
Revelation 6:16, 17. Only those that are "In Christ" will be able to stand, not only will they stand they will be caught up to be with him, Colossians 3:4.
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Good job, thanks.
 
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Robert Pate said:
The day of the Lord has nothing to do with the Sabbath day. It appears to me that "The Day of the Lord" is about the return of Christ. "For yourselves know perfectly that "The Day of the Lord" so comes as a thief in the night" 1 Thessalonians 5:2.

And then Peter wrote,"But "The Day of the Lord" will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up" 2 Peter 3:10.

Even some of the Old Testament prophets spoke of "The Day of the Lord" "Alas for "The Day of the Lord" is at hand, and as a destruction from the almighty shall it come" Joel 1:15.

Isaiah the prophet said, "For "The Day of the Lord" of host shall be upon everyone that is proud and lofty, and upon everyone that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low" Isaiah 2:12.

"Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in "The Day of the Lord's" wrath ; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all of them that dwell in the land" Zephaniah 1:18.

These scriptures speak of the judgment that Jesus will execute when he returns. We must assume that "The Day of the Lord" is the day of judgment. No one likes to talk about judgment, especially the unsaved, God is a God of judgment. If he didn't judge he would not be holy and righteous. His judgments are perfect and complete, unlike the judgments of men.

When Jesus appears in the Eastern sky all that are not "In Christ" will wail because of him, Revelation 1:7. All that have rejected him and his Gospel, will hide in caves and call for the rocks to fall on them, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"
Revelation 6:16, 17. Only those that are "In Christ" will be able to stand, not only will they stand they will be caught up to be with him, Colossians 3:4.
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Nonsense. God is eternal. Why would we wait to find that which is timeless in time? All this projecting into the future is encouraging fear which is passed on generation after generation accumulating a stronger hold with each succession. This is very damaging not only to ourselves and those around us but also to our children and our children's children. We need to quit depending on the past and future for our salvation for it is nowhere to be found but right here and right now in this exact instant.

Also God doesn't judge. A judging God is mankind's projection of their own idea of what they think God is like. We are making God in our own image without realizing its a projection of the personality. Sneaky defense mechanism of the slippery serpent. Don't buy it.
 
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Nonsense. God is eternal. Why would we wait to find that which is timeless in time? All this projecting into the future is encouraging fear which is passed on generation after generation accumulating a stronger hold with each succession. This is very damaging not only to ourselves and those around us but also to our children and our children's children. We need to quit depending on the past and future for our salvation for it is nowhere to be found but right here and right now in this exact instant.

Also God doesn't judge. A judging God is mankind's projection of their own idea of what they think God is like. We are making God in our own image without realizing its a projection of the personality. Sneaky defense mechanism of the slippery serpent. Don't buy it.
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2Pe 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2Pe 3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
 
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Lazy afternoon said:
2Pe 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2Pe 3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
2Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
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Is God eternal or not? The question remains: How can one wait in time for that which is timeless? It's madness. Interpreting these passages literally undermines the eternal nature of our God. Those who understand this know the coming is right now in this very moment, always and forever. Others will continue to look elsewhere which guarantees they will not experience the Kingdom while alive which is for what it's meant. Please don't wait until death to find this out for yourself.
 
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Is God eternal or not? The question remains: How can one wait in time for that which is timeless? It's madness. Interpreting these passages literally undermines the eternal nature of our God. Those who understand this know the coming is right now in this very moment, always and forever. Others will continue to look elsewhere which guarantees they will not experience the Kingdom while alive which is for what it's meant. Please don't wait until death to find this out for yourself.
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Why was the scripture written literally?

Did Jesus purchase salvation for man by His own blood?

Did it happen in time?

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Lazy afternoon said:
Why was the scripture written literally?

Did Jesus purchase salvation for man by His own blood?

Did it happen in time?

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There's nothing that says we have to interpret literally. Why couldn't Jesus be symbolic of the infinite eternal soul? Born pure of a virgin, miraculous, rejected and buried yet still lives. I am not trying to take anything away from the word for word translation but that's not the only way to see it. Yes there was a historical Jesus who lived in time but the deeper meaning of his story is that we are one with God.
 
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Prizebeatz1 said:
There's nothing that says we have to interpret literally.
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"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."​
 
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genuineoriginal said:
Yes, God is eternal.


There is no reason to ask that question, since the Bible does not claim that God is timeless.

You seem to have confused a fictional quality of timelessness with the reality of God being eternal.
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Have we looked up the definition of eternal in the dictionary? The Alpha Omega can be interpreted as timelessness too. It is one viable way out of many to see it.
 
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genuineoriginal said:
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"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."​
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I don't think this is helping. What else you got?
 
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