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The Cosmos
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genuineoriginal
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No, but Neanderthals were humans.
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Science and God's Word say you are wrong. Evolutionists continue to deny the science... and deny humanity to people Christ died for.
Jamie... chances are that you have a few percent Neandertal DNA...perhaps a few percent Italian...or Asian also. Most of us have a few percent Neandertal DNA. Genesis tells us that God created various kinds to produce after their own kind. Neandertals are obviously descendants of Adam and Eve... They are people that Christ died for. Science shows us Neandertals were people who had intelligence, created tools, cared for the young and elderly, created jewelry, understood some medicine, had diets similar to ourselves, capable of articulate speech, seemed to believe in the afterlife, etc. The evolutionary belief system continues being proved false by science.
There couldn't be darkness. This is written when the only being was God (thus written only from His perspective) and He is light. It makes little sense taken literally.
Neanderthals are old people.
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God, as light, is a supernatural version of light; which, according to 1Tim 6:16; no man has seen nor can see.
The light that God called forth in Gen 1:3 is a natural version of light rather than supernatural; just as the birds, the bugs, the fishies, the beasties and the humans are all natural forms of life rather than supernatural.
Aren't you aware that the light spoken of in 1Tim 6:16 has never even once visited the cosmos in person? No, not once. The creator spoken of in the first chapter of Genesis is a unique celestial being given the rank of God with the authority to act as God, to speak as God, and to speak for God. I am not inclined to tell you who that unique celestial being is because if you've read the whole Bible from cover to cover; then you should already know who it is without somebody having to tell you.
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God, as light, is a supernatural version of light; which, according to 1Tim 6:16; no man has seen nor can see.
The light that God called forth in Gen 1:3 is a natural version of light rather than supernatural; just as the birds, the bugs, the fishies, the beasties and the humans are all natural forms of life rather than supernatural.
Aren't you aware that the light spoken of in 1Tim 6:16 has never even once visited the cosmos in person? No, not once. The creator spoken of in the first chapter of Genesis is a unique celestial being given the rank of God with the authority to act as God, to speak as God, and to speak for God. I am not inclined to tell you who that unique celestial being is because if you've read the whole Bible from cover to cover; then you should already know who it is without somebody having to tell you.
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genuineoriginal
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This is from a secular magazine, so naturally they got the years and evolution wrong.
| 20 Things You Didn't Know About... Neanderthals The hominids are depicted as degenerate and slouching because the first Neanderthal skeleton found happened to be arthritic. 1. You’re pretty much a Neanderthal. While it’s been more than 5 million years since we parted ways with chimps, it has been only 400,000 since human and Neanderthal lineages split. 2. If you’re Asian or Caucasian, your ancestors interbred with Neanderthals as recently as 37,000 years ago, when they crossed paths in Europe. 3. And that sex had benefits. Inherited Neanderthal genes come in alleles that help fight off nasty viruses such as Epstein-Barr — associated with several kinds of cancer, says Stanford University immunologist Laurent Abi-Rached. 4. If you want to know how much Neanderthal DNA you carry, just swab your cheek and send it to the National Geographic Society’s Genographic Project. Or you could have your entire genome sequenced as Ozzy Osbourne did in 2010. Researchers found a telltale Neanderthal segment on his chromosome 10. 5. Now that the whole Neanderthal genome has been sequenced, Harvard geneticist George Church thinks a clone could be gestated in a human surrogate mother. It could even be beneficial, he believes, because the Neanderthal mind might be able to solve problems we can’t. 6. Practically nobody believed you could read a Neanderthal’s genes until 2010, when the paleogeneticist Svante Pääbo successfully sequenced DNA from three Neanderthal skeletons found in Croatia. 7. The first evidence of Neanderthals was discovered in 1856. Miners in Germany’s Neander Valley found fossils thought to belong to a cave bear. A local natural historian begged to differ. He reckoned the strange bones were the remains of a lost Cossack suffering from rickets. 8. Charles Darwin published On the Origin of Species three years later. In the context of Darwin’s theories of evolution, the bones were re-examined by anatomist William King, who promptly named them Homo neanderthalensis, a name that provocatively (and incorrectly) suggested they were the missing link between apes and humans. 9. As late as the mid-1970s, creationists were still claiming Neanderthal fossils were the remains of modern humans with acromegaly or arthritis. 10. Paleontologist Marcellin Boule would have been well advised to study pathology. Between 1909 and 1911, he reconstructed the first skeleton of a Neanderthal — who happened to be arthritic. Thus was born the degenerate, slouching image of Neanderthals. 11. They were the ultimate craftsmen, able to pick up impressive skills through practice, but none too creative, say anthropologist Thomas Wynn and psychologist Frederick L. Coolidge of the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs. 12. Credit Neanderthals with a couple of great ideas: They made spears by hafting stone points to wooden shafts, and bonding them with glue. 13. They threw those spears at bison and woolly rhinoceros, resulting in hunting injuries that would end the career of a linebacker. 14. Not that a maimed Neanderthal could afford to retire. Instead they nursed each other back to health, enlisting their greatest concept of all: empathy. 15. They also had medicine. Traces of chamomile and yarrow, two anti-inflammatories, have been detected in the plaque on Neanderthal teeth. 16. Or are these pungent traces of haute cuisine? Neanderthals balanced their carnivorous diets with vegetables roasted over smoky fires. 17. And they had a sense of style. Archaeologists have recovered a yellow pigment in southern Spain that may have been used as foundation for their skin. 18. Evidently Spain was the place to be if you were a Neanderthal with cultural pretensions. Last summer, paintings in El Castillo Cave on the Pas River were found to be at least 40,800 years old. 19. They were better painters than talkers. The anatomy of their vocal tracts would have prevented them from sounding some vowels. 20. In any case, we lost our chance at conversation, since they died out some 25,000 years ago. Their last refuge was Gibraltar, now a haven for tax evaders. |
Elohim is light means He transfers His light or Himself, in His Might, throughout the entire Electromagnetic Spectrum. His light and His power are evident in radio waves, microwaves, infrared, ultraviolet, x-rays, gamma rays and so on.
"In whom we live and stir and be".
If He turned off the light/power atoms would cease to exist.
"In whom we live and stir and be".
If He turned off the light/power atoms would cease to exist.
WeberHome
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The light spoken of in Gen 1:3 isn't divine, it's natural, i.e. created. In point of fact, according to Gen 1:4 the creator himself had never seen it before till that very day.
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The light spoken of in Gen 1:3 isn't divine, it's natural, i.e. created. In point of fact, according to Gen 1:4 the creator himself had never seen it before till that very day.
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CherubRam
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The creation days are epochs of time, that is what has been taught for thousands of years. After the creation of the heavens God came to this body of water that had no form. If the Sun was not already present, then it would have been a solid mass of ice. The darkness was a dark cloud cover. The elements that make up the firmament of this world are ancient, to very young.
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Gen 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
God caused the light to shine upon the Earth. The Bible does not say, He then created the Sun.
genuineoriginal
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The sun wasn't created until the fourth day.
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Interstellar space was at one time thought to contain absolutely nothing until radio astronomers discovered something called the cosmic microwave background. In a nutshell: CMB fills the universe with light that apparently radiates from no detectable source. Scientists are pretty sure that the CMB predates the sun, the moon, and all the stars.
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Interstellar space was at one time thought to contain absolutely nothing until radio astronomers discovered something called the cosmic microwave background. In a nutshell: CMB fills the universe with light that apparently radiates from no detectable source. Scientists are pretty sure that the CMB predates the sun, the moon, and all the stars.
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genuineoriginal
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I can heat a cup of water using microwave radiation.
Is there enough stray microwave radiation in the universe to keep the earth from freezing into a ball of ice curing the three days between the creation of the earth and the creation of the Sun?
Dream on.
6days
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That simply is false. The early Christian father's (even Jesus and Paul) taught against the compromise of adding deep time to scripture.CherubRam said:
Perhaps that is your compromise between what God's word says and secular beliefs are.CherubRam said:
However God did not come upon a body of water that have no form. He created over the course of 6 days, so the natural start was unformed and unfilled. His word tells us how he formed and filled over the next six days.
The gospel demands that suffering and death entered our world only after first Adam sinned. Otherwise...why did Last Adam go to Calvary?
CherubRam
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That is not what God said, it is what you say.
CherubRam
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God had already created the Universe when He came upon this once body of water.
CherubRam
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Epoch of time.
God said:
Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Genesis 3:5
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
After Adam ate the fruit, he continued to live for nearly a thousand years, until he finally died.
Psalm 90:4
For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.
Hosea 6:2
After two days he will revive us; upon the third day he will restore us, that we may live in his presence.
2 Peter 3:8
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
Psalm 90:4
For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.
2 Peter 3:8
But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.
Hosea 6:2
After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will restore us, that we may live in his presence.
The resurrection of the elect is after two thousand years, and the third day is the end of the thousand years, and it is the resurrection of the sheep and goats.
Matthew 24
22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets (Like Mohammad) will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.
26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.
29 “Immediately after the distress of those days
“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
Matthew 25:32
All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
Revelation 20
4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years
We are warned by the Rambam, amongst other Sages, that the story of Genesis and Creation is not to be taken literally. We are further reminded constantly that God is a spirit and does not have a body, like humans. So, when the term 'in His own image' is used, we know that it does not mean a physical body. Therefore it must mean some other quality that God might impart to humans.
For certain there is a parabolic element to the story, but as you know parables are mixed with the literal. This means that a spirit of discernment is required. As for spirits, it is a fact that they also have a soul; both body and spirit. Only it is not like our flesh and blood bodies. Yahwah is a Holy Spirit, and He is the God of spirits.
A person cannot see a spirit, but a person can see a soul. And because those in the kingdom of God have a soul, that is how we will be able to recognize each other.
The creation days are epochs of time, and the age of the Earth is not accounted for.
It is not until the creation of Adam on the sixth day that the calendar begins. The fact that life forms have a limited adaptability according to their design is no proof of Evolution.
What real proof is there of one species departing from its basic form? Artist drawings do not count as scientific fact.
If Evolution was true, then why have the oldest prehistoric life forms alive today not evolved?
In the rock strata of fossils, it shows that while one group suddenly went extinct, others suddenly sprang into being.