Cruciform
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Thus merely proving my statements in Post #4136 above.
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Cruciform
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At least the Eastern Orthodox have retained the seven inspired writings that Protestants---absent of any ecclesiastical or doctrinal authority whatsoever---discarded during the 16th-century Protestant Rebellion.
glassjester
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This shows that a teaching and interpretive authority is indeed necessary.
Right Divider
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The teaching is in the Bible (God's Word); the authority is the LORD Himself.
glassjester
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And how do you know which writings are God's Word, and which are not?
Right Divider
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We believers are led by the Holy Spirit. We don't need a false authority like the RCC to "teach" us or "determine" what is God's Word.
do you test the spirits? -
I do every day -
your bible doesn't even have the word test
glassjester
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Can the Holy Spirit lead different people to contradictory beliefs?
Right Divider
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RCC doctrine leaves you with so many questions, doesn't it?
Right Divider
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If you really "tested" the spirits, you won't be a "Catholic".
the church tries to answer them all -
that is why our catechism is over 700 pages long
Right Divider
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Your catechism is full of babbling and falsehood. That is why it's 700 pages.
glassjester
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Feel free to substantiate this assumption.
Which particular teaching is false?
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM
glassjester
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No, the Protestant attitude of "just me and my Bible" leaves me with lots of questions.
Questions like the one I just asked before, that you ignored.
Care to answer?
Can the Holy Spirit lead different people to contradictory beliefs?
we have to answer a lot of questions like -
peter didn't really go to babylon -
peter means rock -
peter was given the keys -
we don't worship statues -
we don't worship mary -
why we call priests father -
etc etc etc
Right Divider
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This a typical straw-man that you RCC devotees love to use.
No, it is NOT "just me and my Bible". You conveniently left out the most important part: GOD.
No, the Holy Spirit cannot do that.
But men/women don't always follow the Holy Spirit 100%.
Your false "church" does not make it any better.
Right Divider
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None of which you would NEED to answer if you believed what the Bible actually says.
glassjester
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Agreed.
So when you claim the Spirit has led you to a particular belief, and another believer claims the Spirit has led him to a contrary belief...
You would say, then, that he (the other believer) was wrong?
That it was not the Spirit (but rather human error) that led to that belief?
Is this right?
SaulToPaul 2
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Matthew 18
17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
SaulToPaul 2
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Agreed. If they did not make up so much stuff, they would not have so much to explain away.