The "Church" at Acts 2 is NOT the Body of Christ

Evil.Eye.<(I)>

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That is not about Gentiles and Israel, it is about the proud and the humble.

Every word of scripture teaches multiple things. You are correct as well. But it holds as I used it also. I would be the first to agree with you! One meaning does not abrogate another.

Consider how prophecy occurs multiple times from one passage. Though events happen that are direct to the prophecy, it further reaches into the future.

This is the proof our 66 book masterpiece has a genuinely Divine Architecture.

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john w

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Thus Paul says Messiah is the head of the congregation and the Savior of the body, (Eph 5:23).
That is, if we understand the Testimony of Yeshua and do as he says . . . :)
Parables, parables, allegories, allegories

Paul says that the Messiah, the head of the congregation, and Saviour,
"Yeshua," is a parable, allegory.


Fun! You taught us that, DaqqVader-we learned that from you.
 

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Returned? Where will he return from?

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John 16:12 “I still have many things to tell you, but you can’t bear them now.

Luke 21:20 “However, when you see Yerushalayim surrounded by armies, then you are to understand that she is about to be destroyed.

Luke 21:21-23 Those in Y’hudah must escape to the hills, those inside the city must get out, and those in the country must not enter it. For these are the days of vengeance, when everything that has been written in the Tanakh will come true. What a terrible time it will be for pregnant women and nursing mothers! For there will be great distress in the Land and judgment on the people.

Luke 21:4 Some will fall by the edge of the sword, others will be carried into all the countries of the Goyim, and Yerushalayim will be trampled down by the Goyim until the age of the Goyim has run its course. Romans 11:24-27 For if you were cut out of what is by nature a wild olive tree and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, ! For, brothers, I want you to understand this truth which God formerly concealed but has now revealed, so that you won’t imagine you know more than you actually do. It is that stoniness, to a degree, has come upon Isra’el, until the Gentile world enters in its fullness; and that it is in this way that all Isra’el will be saved. As the Tanakh says, “Out of Tziyon will come the Redeemer; he will turn away ungodliness from Ya‘akov and this will be my covenant with them, . . . when I take away their sins.”

Luke 21:27-28 And then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with tremendous power and glory. When these things start to happen, stand up and hold your heads high; because you are about to be liberated!”

Acts 1:10-12 As they were staring into the sky after him, suddenly they saw two men dressed in white standing next to them. The men said, “You Galileans! Why are you standing, staring into space? This Yeshua, who has been taken away from you into heaven, will come back to you in just the same way as you saw him go into heaven.” Then they returned the Shabbat-walk distance from the Mount of Olives to Yerushalayim.

Zechariah 14:2-5 “For I will gather all the nations against Yerushalayim for war. The city will be taken, the houses will be rifled, the women will be raped, and half the city will go into exile; but the rest of the people will not be cut off from the city.” Then Adonai will go out and fight against those nations, fighting as on a day of battle. On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which lies to the east of Yerushalayim; and the Mount of Olives will be split in half from east to west, to make a huge valley. Half of the mountain will move toward the north, and half of it toward the south. You will flee to the valley in the mountains, for the valley in the mountains will reach to Atzel. You will flee, just as you fled before the earthquake in the days of ‘Uziyah king of Y’hudah. Then Adonai my God will come to you with all the holy ones.

Joel 4:9-12 “Proclaim this among the nations: ‘Prepare for war! Rouse the warriors! Let all the fighting men approach and attack.’ Hammer your plow-blades into swords and your pruning-knives into spears. Let the weak say, ‘I am strong.’ Hurry, come, you surrounding nations, gather yourselves together!” Bring your warriors down, Adonai! “Let the nations be roused and come up to the Valley of Y’hoshafat Adonai judges. For there I will sit to judge all the surrounding nations.”

Joel 4:1-2,3 “For then, at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Y’hudah and Yerushalayim, I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Y’hoshafat Adonai judges. I will enter into judgment there for my people, my heritage Isra’el, whom they scattered among the nations; then they divided my land. 2:32 At that time, whoever calls on the name of Adonai will be saved. For in Mount Tziyon and Yerushalayim there will be those who escape, as Adonai has promised; among the survivors will be those whom Adonai has called.

Revelation 20:11-15 Next I saw a great white throne and the One sitting on it. Earth and heaven fled from his presence, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, both great and small, standing in front of the throne. Books were opened; and another book was opened, the Book of Life; and the dead were judged from what was written in the books, according to what they had done. The sea gave up the dead in it; and Death and Sh’ol gave up the dead in them; and they were judged, each according to what he had done. Then Death and Sh’ol were hurled into the lake of fire. This is the second death — the lake of fire. Anyone whose name was not found written in the Book of Life was hurled into the lake of fire.

Joel 2:1-3 Joel 4:9-12 “Blow the shofar in Tziyon! Sound an alarm on my holy mountain!” Let all living in the land tremble, for the Day of Adonai is coming! It’s upon us! — a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and thick fog; a great and mighty horde is spreading like blackness over the mountains. There has never been anything like it, nor will there ever be again, not even after the years of many generations. Ahead of them a fire devours, behind them a flame consumes; ahead the land is like Gan-‘Eden, behind them a desert waste. From them there is no escape. “Proclaim this among the nations: ‘Prepare for war! Rouse the warriors! Let all the fighting men approach and attack.’ Hammer your plow-blades into swords and your pruning-knives into spears. Let the weak say, ‘I am strong.’ Hurry, come, you surrounding nations, gather yourselves together!” Bring your warriors down, Adonai! “Let the nations be roused and come up to the Valley of Y’hoshafat Adonai judges. For there I will sit to judge all the surrounding nations.”

Revelation 21:3-4, 22-23 I heard a loud voice from the throne say, “See! God’s Sh’khinah is with mankind, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and he himself, God-with-them, will be their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will no longer be any death; and there will no longer be any mourning, crying or pain; because the old order has passed away.” I saw no Temple in the city, for Adonai, God of heaven’s armies, is its Temple, as is the Lamb. The city has no need for the sun or the moon to shine on it, because God’s Sh’khinah gives it light, and its lamp is the Lamb.

Joel 3:5 Joel 2:27 2:32 At that time, whoever calls on the name of Adonai will be saved. For in Mount Tziyon and Yerushalayim there will be those who escape, as Adonai has promised; among the survivors will be those whom Adonai has called. You will know that I am with Isra’el and that I am Adonai your God, and that there is no other. Then my people will never again be shamed.
 

RBBI

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And morning come your skin belongs to the Kohen: so the Kohen takes you to the house of Shimon the Tanner for rinsing, scraping, stretching, drying, and prepping. When you are fully prepared the Kohen Scribe then takes you to his chamber and knits you together as one with your brethren, one body, and then he writes all the words of the covenant in your inward parts and rolls you up like a garment. After all of this he takes the trees of life and lays you up with your brethren, as one roll, between the trees of life: and he takes an awl, and pierces earlets for you, and affixes you with your brethren to the trees of life, (which are also like staves put into the ear-rings which shall never be removed). Then the Kohen places you in an ark, which is like a little tabernacle, and brings you into the Temple: and from that appointed time shall you no more go out from the Temple, (your name having been written in the heavens). :)

See the post which follows:

Beautiful. Blessings...
 

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Every word of scripture teaches multiple things. You are correct as well. But it holds as I used it also. I would be the first to agree with you! One meaning does not abrogate another.

Consider how prophecy occurs multiple times from one passage. Though events happen that are direct to the prophecy, it further reaches into the future.

This is the proof our 66 book masterpiece has a genuinely Divine Architecture.

: )
I understand that, but you do not provide any support for gentiles ever being call "firstfruits". Gentiles are NOT the firstfruits of anything.

Please feel free to demonstrate how any verse like this refer to the gentiles being first:

Matt 20:16 (AKJV/PCE)
(20:16) So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
 

RBBI

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That's true. He came in a cloud (the state of man when ground to powder/dust by laying down his own life so that the glory of the Father shines through) the first time, and He will return in like manner in many clouds of glory, and unlike the clouds without water in Jude, these clouds will be able to make it rain. One plants, another waters, but G-d gives the increase.

Of course many men are the sons of Galilee (still going in circles) and are still looking for a literal cloud. Blessings...
 

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That's true. He came in a cloud (the state of man when ground to powder/dust by laying down his own life so that the glory of the Father shines through) the first time, and He will return in like manner in many clouds of glory, and unlike the clouds without water in Jude, these clouds will be able to make it rain. One plants, another waters, but G-d gives the increase.

Of course many men are the sons of Galilee (still going in circles) and are still looking for a literal cloud. Blessings...
Scripture PLEASE!
 

jamie

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Is this verse not in your "Bible"?

Acts 1:11 (AKJV/PCE)
(1:11) Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

For He Himself has said, "I will never leave you nor forsake you." (Hebrews 13:5)

How can he return if he never leaves us?
 

Jerry Shugart

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That's true. He came in a cloud (the state of man when ground to powder/dust by laying down his own life so that the glory of the Father shines through) the first time, and He will return in like manner in many clouds of glory...

I don't think that is what Job had in mind:

"For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God" (Job 19:25-26).​
 

daqq

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And morning come your skin belongs to the Kohen: so the Kohen takes you to the house of Shimon the Tanner for rinsing, scraping, stretching, drying, and prepping. When you are fully prepared the Kohen Scribe then takes you to his chamber and knits you together as one with your brethren, one body, and then he writes all the words of the covenant in your inward parts and rolls you up like a garment. After all of this he takes the trees of life and lays you up with your brethren, as one roll, between the trees of life: and he takes an awl, and pierces earlets for you, and affixes you with your brethren to the trees of life, (which are also like staves put into the ear-rings which shall never be removed). Then the Kohen places you in an ark, which is like a little tabernacle, and brings you into the Temple: and from that appointed time shall you no more go out from the Temple, (your name having been written in the heavens). :)

See the post which follows:
Beautiful. Blessings...

Like so:


In the mgillat-kephalidi of the Sefer it is written concerning me . . .
That is, the crown-header of the Sefer, in the right hand side, Breshiyt-Genesis 1:1-5.

1 John 1:1-3
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have beheld, and which our hands have handled, concerns the Word of life.
2 And the life was made manifest, and we have seen, and bear witness, and we announce unto you the life αιωνιον which was with the Father, and was made manifest unto us.
3 Whom we have envisioned and heard we also announce unto you, so that you also may have fellowship with us: and our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Ι̅H Χ̅Ρ.

:)
 

Evil.Eye.<(I)>

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I understand that, but you do not provide any support for gentiles ever being call "firstfruits". Gentiles are NOT the firstfruits of anything.

Please feel free to demonstrate how any verse like this refer to the gentiles being first:

Matt 20:16 (AKJV/PCE)
(20:16) So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

I'll try... : )

Was Able the Youngest or the oldest?

Who's Saccrifice was accepted?

Which Covenant is toil in the "soil"?

And.... 1 Cor. 15:20, 23; Mt. 27:53
 

Evil.Eye.<(I)>

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For He Himself has said, "I will never leave you nor forsake you." (Hebrews 13:5)

How can he return if he never leaves us?

Again... His Spiritual Presence as "The Holy Spirit OT... Ghost" in our Being.

This is not the "Day of the Lord", or... the Physical presence of God.

1 Cor. 15:20, 23
 
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