Rosenritter
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Mennosota, if human will was superior to God's will, humans would be God already.
The Christ Rejectors
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Mennosota, if human will was superior to God's will, humans would be God already.
beloved57
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Your savior is mans freewill.
Where in the Bible does it say that man lost his freewill in the fall?
What Adam lost was his relationship with God, not his freewill.
Did God make Cain murder his brother Abel? No, Cain murdered Abel by his own free will.
Did you not become a Calvinist by your own freewill?
beloved57
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You teach that sinners Christ died for shall be lost, but men who use their freewill shall be saved, hence your saviour isnt the blood of Christ but the freewill of men !
You teach a lot of really stupid, unscriptural stuff that is an insult to common sense.
Books is plural and comes from the Greek word "biblion" from which we get the English word Bible.
Jesus had said, "He who rejects Me and does not receive My words has that which judges him — the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day." (John 12:48)
The words of Jesus are not written in a Book of Works, they are written in the Bible.
Who said that they were?
The fact remains.
"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that everyone may receive the things done in his body, according to that which he has done, whether it be good or bad" 2 Corinthians 5:10.
However, "There is no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus" Romans 8:1.
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beloved57
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Your savior is the freewill of man.
Everyone is born with a freewill. It is a natural human attribute. We all make hundreds of decisions every day. God did not create robots.
You don't believe in the Christ of the Bible. Though you do misinterpret Hebrews 2:9 and 1 John 2:2. You have been corrected often, yet you persist in your false doctrine, which rejects the Christ of the Bible.
We have gone over this ad nauseum. Free will is not the same as choosing which jam to put on your toast. You cheapen the gospel and make God weak while you lift up your own person as glorious and worthy of praise. You should be ashamed, but you are not.
What is there to interpret in Hebrews 2:9? Its 4th grade stuff.
"That he by the grace of God should taste death for EVERYONE" Hebrews 2:9.
This fits with about 15 other scriptures.
1 John 2:2, "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not ours only, BUT ALSO FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD". What is it that you don't understand about this scripture?
Your problem is that you want the Bible to fit your false doctrine and when it doesn't fit you claim that it is misinterpreted.
If you were saved and had the Holy Spirit the Bible would make sense.
It is really stupid to say that man does not have a freewill. You want to discredit God by saying that he created a bunch of dumb robots that can't think for themselves or make decisions. You really need to make a decision for Christ and get saved.
You have been shown your error. It must be that you have yet to enter kindergarten. [emoji41]
Arthur Brain
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And all those who have doubts in life are making some decision to rot in "hell"?
Jesus said that one is either with Him, or against Him.
So, basically, yes, if they don't choose God, the only other option is the Lake of Fire.
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It is really stupid to claim free will when we see God choosing his own from Genesis to Revelation. God tells us over and over that He chooses and He saves whom He has chosen. God tells us that humans are by nature, rebels against God. Rebels do not seek reconciliation with their enemy. God, however, chooses to reconcile rebels by grace and grace alone.
RP, you teach an imaginary God who is incapable of choosing to save whom He wills and must wait for rebels to want, by their "free will" to reconcile with God.
RP, have you ever seen one ISIS rebel or Al Queda rebel willingly and joyfully choose to love the United States? Humans are REBELS against God. They NEVER willingly and joyfully choose to surrender and receive a gift from their natural enemy.
Your message of free will is a collasal lie from hell. Your image about your self is prideful and dishonoring toward God.
You are a Christ rejector.
Arthur Brain
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Arthur Brain
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Hey, you probably think the lake of fire is literally just that as well, right? How many people do you suppose would want to or choose to get burned in eternity? Do you ever think outside of the box and have some understanding of people?
The fact that you do not use scripture to make your point tells me that you are unsaved and are void of the Holy Spirit who is the teacher of truth, John 16:13.
God is just, merciful and righteous and is not willing that any should perish, 2 Peter 3:9.
The God of Calvinism does not exist and is a false God. If you continue to follow him you will perish.