The problem of fringe groups is maintaining and increasing their membership. BLM, KKK, Antifa, et al. need to be in the news just like the Taliban and radicalized Muslim extremists.
I'm sure it helps and I said as much, Robert, but I don't think advertising makes people extremist any more than speed limits make people speed.
The MSM are complying and trying to stir up the masses against Trump with both real and fake news because he's an outsider.
To me he's just another rich old power broker. It doesn't get much more inside than that. This isn't James Dean. He's more Jimmy Dean.
Prove it. Blanket statements without proof are a liberals security blanket.
I actually provided a link to this in another thread. I'll look it up again and add it to this at some point when I have a minute. But why does that bring out the insult (I'm not a liberal) when you do the very same thing by declaring, without linkage or demonstrable proof, that main stream media has been a left wing institution?
Do you have a point, or is that asking too much?
That's civil?
So you're telling me how you want me to argue?
No, I was suggesting how not to.
I'm new here but I can see you and I are getting off to a rocky relationship from the get-go!
If I think you're wrong headed I'll tell you, but absent proof I'll assume you don't mean to be and that you're doing what anyone does, what I do, which is look at things to see them.
You don't have to, or have to respond to someone who is. I thought you got a few things wrong and said so. How you characterize that or what you mean to do with it is yours.
If you want to shout me down and not let me speak freely, you're no better than the Black Panthers, BLM, Antifa, etc.
How would I "shout you down" by responding where you're as free as I am?
As I said, I am not debating. I'm just stating facts. Deal with it!
Why yell? I am debating, and largely doing it with a smile. But you went off on unrelated tangents as though we were contesting on them and I didn't know what to make of it. I even agreed with you on some of that, like the Canadian bit. I just didn't understand your reason for the shift.
The Liberal litmus test is abortion.
I'd agree. It's one reason I always shake my head when some doofus tries to call me liberal.
So if you support liberal causes/candidates like we discussed,
When did we do that? I'm pro life, pro gun ownership, pro free market and registered Republican, though that last mostly because I have people at the local and state level whom I support. I consider myself an independent on the whole and have voted Democratic, though I mostly don't.
your claim to be pro-Life is without essential proof.
Then you can't credit the reason for thinking otherwise either and you have a problem, given the only reason you can know anything about me is because I tell you about it.
You fail the liberal litmus test, but you cling to it's other "values".
Which? I'd say that I stand for certain principles and I don't hold them to be owned by either party.
That's okay with me, but I'm noting that all sorts of ideas are held by all sorts of groups. The larger the number within a given the more likely you are to find them. So a substantial number of Republicans are pro choice and a lesser number of Democrats are pro life. It was a reasoned rebuttal to your contention about membership in groups.
Wow. You really like making up analogies don't you?
They're often helpful in framing a point offered. Especially when it might be obscured by something else. A solid rhetorical, logical device.
It adds nothing to this discussion which I hoped would be civil.
No reason for it not to be. I'm game. Let's see if we can do better. What got your goat about my last response?
No idea why you think that. I'm not upset and I'm not aiming to upset you.
Maybe it's impossible for a liberal to have a civil discussion.
You'll have to try to have one with one then let me know.
That said, I hope you amend a few tendencies and stick around. :e4e: