Excellent post. My compliments.
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Excellent post. My compliments.
Calvinists, like Nangster, believe that one must first be regenerated, then, they receive saving faith. They basically put the cart before the horse.
Nang
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The Gospel of Jesus Christ alone has the power to save, not bibles.
Accumulating some knowledge of the original Greek language, enables one to discern whether the bible they are studying, or the teacher they listen to, or their friends who profess faith in Christ, are all truly conveying the Truth of God in their witness.
I John 4:1-6
Nang
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Define the cart and then define the horse, please.
Nang
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I'm sure GM had no knowledge of this excellent edition of Holy Scripture, even existed(s) . . .
His loss.
The "Grace Gospel" IS the written WORD of God. Unless we HEAR the Gospel and believe, we cannot be saved. Romans 10:17 "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Nang
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The Gospel of Jesus Christ alone has the power to save, not all that might be printed in various bibles.
Exhortations being:
Accumulating some knowledge of the original Greek language, enables one to discern whether the bible they are studying, or the teacher they listen to, or their friends who profess faith in Christ, are all truly conveying the Truth of God in their witness of the Gospel.
I have heard of the Geneva Bible. My Bible of choice is, "The New King James Bible."
musterion
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Where do we find the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which alone has the power to save?
PPS said we're unsaved even though we (MADs) all believe 1 Cor 15:1-4 for ourselves. It is his knowledge, which we lack, that is keeping us unsaved, according to him -- because we believe the same saving Gospel he says he believes, yet he insists we're not saved.
So the only difference between he and we is his knowledge. Not having it can be the only reason we aren't saved. There's no difference otherwise.
Do you agree with him on that?
Nangster, a very dear friend of mine has a page of the "Geneva Bible" in a frame she keeps in her bedroom. It's extremely old.
Calvin didn't personally translate that Version, did he?
good post
musterion
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I want to make sure you're clear on this, Nang, before you answer.
I quoted 1 Cor 15:1-4 and asked PPS if that's the saving Gospel. He said yes, it is. I know you believe that it is, too.
Yet he insists we're not saved DESPITE our having believed it.
He says he is not a Calvinist like you, so presumably he doesn't simply believe we're not saved yet because we're not yet regenerated (if we're slated to be regenerated) as I believe you do.
He doesn't believe we're saved AT ALL.
That would indicate, would it not, that he doesn't REALLY believe it's the power of God unto salvation...since we are unsaved even though we, too, have believed it?
I quoted 1 Cor 15:1-4 and asked PPS if that's the saving Gospel. He said yes, it is. I know you believe that it is, too.
Yet he insists we're not saved DESPITE our having believed it.
He says he is not a Calvinist like you, so presumably he doesn't simply believe we're not saved yet because we're not yet regenerated (if we're slated to be regenerated) as I believe you do.
He doesn't believe we're saved AT ALL.
That would indicate, would it not, that he doesn't REALLY believe it's the power of God unto salvation...since we are unsaved even though we, too, have believed it?
The ONLY place that I know of where we find the written word of God is the Bible. Unless Nangster has another source I'm unaware of?
PPS is his own "One man cult."
There's only one Gospel today and that is, "The Grace Gospel" that was given to the Apostle Paul by the Ascended Lord Jesus Christ.
I use the New King James Bible, but I prefer the New American Standard Bible and the English Standard Version Bible.
Nang
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Greatly and best learned through the study of Covenant Theology!
From Genesis to Revelation . . . the Gospel is the promise of a "Seed" who would remedy the fall, to Eve in Genesis 3:15.
That much might be enough to save, but it is MAD's rejection of almost all the rest of God's word being gospel that indicates unbelief.
Repeated answer as above . . .
It is your refusal to be willing to learn and gain knowledge; thereby protecting the knowledge you have, that indicates you do not really possess a hunger and thirst for Truth at all.
And your eager animosity shown against others, who have different callings in life (e.g. linguists such as PPS) makes you appear to be an enemy of the believing children and church body of God.
Nang
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Good ones, all. My old and most used favorite is also the NKJB.
PneumaPsucheSoma
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I have never had and do not have mutliple accounts with multiple screen names on TOL (since that seems to be what you're referring to).
So it is you who is the egregious liar. Whoever this dialm is, it's not me. I haven't even ever seen that member's posts in a thread.
The Mods (or Knight) should be able to check IP addresses. It would be extremely rare for IPs to be the same in the same region.
I'll get back to the last few posts in a bit.
No need for you to be a liar and call me one when I'm not.
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