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PPS couldn't even clear up a case of acne, even if he had the right prescription.
According to the way PPS thinks, only "Zorba the Greek" could be saved.
Isn't it about time for Nangster to weigh in with one of her "Cranky" remarks?
PneumaPsucheSoma
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Isn't it just keen how your adamance that a conversation is over can be rescinded and you not consider yourself a liar?
Are you saying that beyond their limited position and vocation here, the Mods are some kind of infallible authority?
The Mods know nothing of whom or what I am beyond their presumptions as your theological peers.
Sorry you and they are so intimidated. Not my fault.
Both Nangster and PPS share something in common. They both have a bad case of "self-importance."
musterion
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Has nothing at all to do with theology. You're lying and you know you're lying.
It looks as if you think you're scarier than you actually are? Although, you sure sent a shiver up my spine. I may not recover right away. I might have to head to the nearest emergency room.
He's just trying to save face.
Nang
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Possessing knowledge of the original languages prevents the kind of errors that can give people a false assurance of salvation while remaining under false gospels.
Gaining knowledge of the original languages is not "extra-biblical." It is foundational to properly forming doctrine and being able to discern true and false messaging.
Your posts are nothing but taunts to get others to say judgmental or angry things that might get them banned.
Nang
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Yep. Another bald-faced taunt . . .:devil:
Nangster, you seem to leave out the most important ingredient in order for salvation to take place. Actually, two ingredients. One, the Gospel message itself and the hearing of it and the Holy Spirit who indwells, seals and places those who put their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ as their Savior, and baptizes (not by water) them into the Body of Christ. Don't you believe that the Holy Spirit plays an intricate part in the salvation of an unbeliever? The Holy Spirit uses the written word of God to call ALL of humanity to God's Grace and all it entails. It's a Spiritual process, not a matter of being able to speak Greek and Hebrew.
musterion
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So the Bible alone does not contain, at the very least, the saving Gospel? Can one be saved knowing nor caring for a lick of Greek but with just a Bible?
Obviously, God knew ahead of time there might be problems with translations, yet, people get saved. God sees to that. Everyone still has an inborn free-will to believe or reject God's offer. (Gift)
musterion
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You shouldn't comment so assuredly on things of which you have no knowledge. But he knows what I'm talking about.
People seem to forget that the Bible is the Holy Inspired Word of God.
Take the Spiritual element out of the equation and NOBODY gets saved.
Nangster, search around and you might find a "John Calvin Translated Bible?" Then, you'll be more secure.
musterion
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Yep. Paul says the Gospel of the grace of God is, itself, the power of God unto salvation. That means what God wants to be believed unto salvation can be believed and will save any who believes it, no matter what language it's translated into because the Message itself is the power, not any particular translation of the message.
Now, Nang indicates her belief that we're unsaved. Probably because, in her mind, if we're elect God just hasn't zapped us yet. So she can say we're unregenerates now, despite our belief in the Gospel. If God chooses to zap us, then we'll be saved. She can't say it won't happen because no Calvinist can say who is and isn't elect or when God will zap those He elects to zap.
But PPS goes far beyond that. He believes that if one lacks the knowledge which, of everyone on TOL, only he possesses, one cannot be saved even if he/she has believed "the power of God unto salvation." He's already affirmed this several times about us all. That means he believes the Gospel is subsidiary to the "deeper knowledge" such as he possesses, which knowledge is real reason he is saved and we are not.
That's truly into the deep weeds of Jim Jones guru type cultism, on top of it also being a false gospel.
Eagles Wings
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John 3:16 1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
16 [a]For God so loveth the world, that He hath given His only Begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Footnotes:
a.John 3:16 Nothing else but the free love of the Father, is the beginning of our salvation, and Christ is He in whom our righteousness and salvation is resident: and faith is the instrument or mean whereby we apprehend it, and life everlasting is that which is set before us to apprehend.
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1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
Geneva Bible, 1599 Edition. Published by Tolle Lege Press.
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