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[Right Divider]

Here's a link to a PDF on the Missouri Synod's take on water baptism, quoted below. It is referring to a water ritual, showing that conservative Lutherans are baptismal salvationists:

In and through Baptism, God cleanses us from all of our sins, snatches us from the power of Satan, and gives us everlasting life. It is all God’s doing as He gives us His blessing. It is His promise. In Baptism, our Triune God imparts to each of us personally the gifts the Lord Jesus Christ won for the world through His life, suffering, death, and resurrection.

The above is under the curse of Galatians 1:8-9.

Is this not a blasphemous denial of the deity of our LORD?

 

[musterion]

Is this not a blasphemous denial of the deity of our LORD?

Dunno, maybe. Could just be flowery Lutheran prose. Not sure if it actually means anything theologically.

 

[musterion]

PPS (As a devout Lutheran) seems to not place much faith in the Holy Spirit to give us the ability to understand Scripture.

I do believe trustworthy commentaries have value. But an overreliance on the commentariat, at the expense of actually studying the Word for oneself, indicates something is wrong. Doesn't mean they're not saved, but it does mean something isn't right (yet). In my case, it was just words on a page because I did not see the revelation of the secret -- it just didn't make sense but I knew there was NO WAY I could live up to the teachings of the four Gospels, which is where I was told to focus my life around. Thankfully, now I know why I couldn't.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Obviously, it looks as if "Lutherans" hold water baptism to a higher degree.

 

[Right Divider]

Dunno, maybe. Could just be flowery Lutheran prose. Not sure if it actually means anything theologically.

To say that Jesus Christ "won" these gifts by what He did on earth is to deny that He has always HAD these gifts, since He is God.

 

[musterion]

To say that Jesus Christ "won" these gifts by what He did on earth is to deny that He has always HAD these gifts, since He is God.

Good point, I hadn't considered that.

 

[heir]

Law and Gospel.

We are in the but now where the righteousness of God WITHOUT THE LAW is manifested (Romans 3:21-22 KJV). Get with the program in Romans through Philemon!

 

[heir]

None of these unchurched renegade MADs know what Law

Galatians 3:24 KJV

OR Gospel is.

Gospel equals good news.

And we (those of us in the Body of Christ) are the church. Get a clue!

 

[musterion]

Get with the program in Romans through Philemon!

If Lutherans did that, they'd have to give up the salvific effect of their water baptism. So would everyone else who practices it. There is NOT ONE baptizing church or denomination ANYWHERE that doesn't think their ritual impacts your standing with God, in some sense. That's why they do it. Some are just more honest about that than others.

 

[musterion]

Besides Walther, who is a scholar, any other authors to recommend on law and gospel for the layman?

Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine and Dr. Howard.

 

[john w]

Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine and Dr. Howard.

We MAD wackos, since we cannot understand the words of the book, are victims of circumstances, and propozons!!!!

 

[Nick M]

Thanks, Mark M. Now that is true. However, like Paul, I might become your enemy by telling you the truth.

 

[musterion]

"But Moe, I'm justa victim of soicumstance and reprobation! Mostly reprobation."

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

How are ya fellow Spammers?

 

[Nick M]

 

[Nick M]

 

[musterion]

How are ya fellow Spammers?

Woob woob woob! Nyuk.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Woob woob woob! Nyuk.

Nice to hear from ya.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

One example of a "Spammer" is one who posts a thousand words that could have been broken down into a single sentence.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

There are posters who have the imagination and writing skills to say what needs to be said with fewer words than someone who posts, "yard long" annoying writings that no one has any interest in reading.