"Son of Man"

[OZOS]

Paul did not write the book to the Hebrews no matter how much you stomp your feet in protest.

I haven't stomped my feet, but I have given you solid evidence. You have ignored all of it, and acted like a child. Grow up.

The letter to the Hebrews was written by Luke, accompanied by Paul.

Peter said that Paul wrote to the Hebrews.
Paul wrote to the Hebrews.
Paul preached to Hebrews.
Paul's preaching to Hebrews resulted in many Hebrews believing Paul's gospel.
Paul's gospel is preached in the letter to the Hebrews.

You have no answer, because you reject God's word, in favor of those who wrongly divide the word of truth.

 

[Right Divider]

I haven't stomped my feet, but I have given you solid evidence.

If you think so.

You have ignored all of it, and acted like a child. Grow up.

No, I've not.

Have you noticed that you get into arguments with everyone?

The letter to the Hebrews was written by Luke, accompanied by Paul.

Peter said that Paul wrote to the Hebrews.

Peter never said that Paul THE book of Hebrews.

Perhaps you've never noticed that those that compiled the Bible separated Paul's epistle from the Hebrews epistles (including the book to the Hebrews). The ordering of the NT is as follows:

• The four "gospels" (Christ's earthly ministry)
• The book of Acts.
• Paul's epistles (largest to smallest)
• The Hebrew epistles (largest to smallest)
• The book of Revelation

Why do you suppose that they did that?

Paul wrote to the Hebrews.

So what? We have no record of it.

Paul preached to Hebrews.

So what? He preached to everyone.

Paul's preaching to Hebrews resulted in many Hebrews believing Paul's gospel.

Wonderful!!!

Paul's gospel is preached in the letter to the Hebrews.

No, it's not.

The book of Hebrews is all about Israel and their new covenant (among other new things for Israel).

You have no answer, because you reject God's word, in favor of those who wrongly divide the word of truth.

Nonsense.

 

[OZOS]

Have you noticed that you get into arguments with everyone?

I have many people to correct.

Perhaps you've never noticed that those that compiled the Bible separated Paul's epistle from the Hebrews epistles

No, man did that. Just like man calls the four gospels "The New Covenant / Testament / Will", when we know that a covenant does not go into effect, until the one who makes it is dead.

Paul's gospel is preached in the letter to the Hebrews.

No, it's not

"But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified."

Luke is writing to Jews, who believed that Jesus died for their sins, and was raised from the dead.

"Now may the God of peace who brought up our Lord Jesus from the dead, that great Shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, make you complete in every good work to do His will, working in you what is well pleasing in His sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen."

"Remember the prisoners as if chained with them—those who are mistreated—since you yourselves are in the body also."

 

[Right Divider]

I have many people to correct.

Being the only correct person in the world must be an extreme burden on you.

No, man did that. Just like man calls the four gospels "The New Covenant / Testament / Will", when we know that a covenant does not go into effect, until the one who makes it is dead.

Yes, and they did it for a valid reason.

Paul's gospel is preached in the letter to the Hebrews.

No, it's not and repeating your idea will not make it come true.

"But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified."

The sacrifice of Christ for the sins of Israel was not the mystery of Christ that Paul writes about.

Luke is writing to Jews, who believed that Jesus died for their sins, and was raised from the dead.

Wonderful!!!

"Now may the God of peace who brought up our Lord Jesus from the dead, that great Shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, make you complete in every good work to do His will, working in you what is well pleasing in His sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen."

Paul never calls Christ "shepherd" or "priest" or "the Son of man".

 

[OZOS]

Paul never calls Christ "shepherd" or "priest" or "the Son of man".

Not to the Gentiles, he doesn't, but he does to the Jews.

"For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law"

The evidence I have given is abundant and solid. What you choose is to believe is without merit.

 

[Right Divider]

Not to the Gentiles, he doesn't, but he does to the Jews.

"For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law"

The evidence I have given is abundant and solid. What you choose is to believe is without merit.

No, it was NOT.

Most scholars do NOT believe that Paul was the author of the book to the Hebrews and there is much debate about who did. The truth is that we don't know who it was. So you can do ahead and live your fairy tale to your hearts content.

This could help you, but probably won't: https://graceambassadors.com/hebrews

 

[OZOS]

Most scholars to NOT believe that Paul was the author of the book to the Hebrews and there is much debate about who did. The truth is that we don't know who it was.

Apparently you know it wasn't Paul.

Just as Luke did not walk with Jesus, but wrote his gospel from other accounts, based on what those who did shared with him, the same is true here, with Paul's direction and doctrine. Most of Acts is the same.

 

[Right Divider]

Apparently you know it wasn't Paul.

I never said that I know it wasn't Paul. I've very sure that it wasn't Paul.
As I said earlier... we do NOT know for sure who wrote the book.

Just as Luke did not walk with Jesus, but wrote his gospel from other accounts, based on what those who did shared with him, the same is true here, with Paul's direction and doctrine. Most of Acts is the same.

How do you know that "Luke did not walk with Jesus"?

In Galatians 2, Paul and Peter, James and John agreed to separate their ministries with Paul going to the heathen (i.e., gentiles) and Peter, James and John going to the circumcision (i.e., Hebrews) and yet you believe that Paul disregarded this solemn agreement and wrote a book to the Hebrews.

 

[OZOS]

How do you know that "Luke did not walk with Jesus"?

He was not a disciple of Jesus, and he was a Gentile.

In Galatians 2, Paul and Peter, James and John agreed to separate their ministries with Paul going to the heathen (i.e., gentiles) and Peter, James and John going to the circumcision (i.e., Hebrews) and yet you believe that Paul disregarded this solemn agreement and wrote a book to the Hebrews.

Paul, quite often, as I've already shown you, went to the Jew, disregarding his own words.

"Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, “It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles." Acts 13:46

Yet, Paul went to the Jews...

"Now it happened in Iconium that they went together to the synagogue of the Jews, and so spoke that a great multitude both of the Jews and of the Greeks believed." Acts 14:1

"Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where there was a synagogue of the Jews. Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and demonstrating that the Christ had to suffer and rise again from the dead, and saying, “This Jesus whom I preach to you is the Christ.” And some of them were persuaded; and a great multitude of the devout Greeks, and not a few of the leading women, joined Paul and Silas." Acts17:1-4

"Then the brethren immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea. When they arrived, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so. Therefore many of them believed, and also not a few of the Greeks, prominent women as well as men." Acts 17:10-12

"And he (Paul) reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks." Acts 18:4

"Then Crispus, the ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his household." Acts 18:8

"But when they opposed him and blasphemed, he shook his garments and said to them, “Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean. From now on I will go to the Gentiles.” Acts 18:6

Yet, Paul continued to go to the Jews...

"And he (Paul) went into the synagogue and spoke boldly for three months, reasoning and persuading concerning the things of the kingdom of God. But when some were hardened and did not believe, but spoke evil of the Way before the multitude, he departed from them and withdrew the disciples, reasoning daily in the school of Tyrannus. And this continued for two years, so that all who dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both Jews and Greeks." Acts 19:8-10

 

[Right Divider]

He was not a disciple of Jesus, and he was a Gentile.

Luke was NOT a Gentile. More later.

 

[OZOS]

Luke was NOT a Gentile. More later.

"Aristarchus my fellow prisoner greets you, with Mark the cousin of Barnabas (about whom you received instructions: if he comes to you, welcome him), and Jesus who is called Justus. These are my only fellow workers for the kingdom of God who are of the circumcision; they have proved to be a comfort to me."

Paul continues... "Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ, saluteth you, always labouring fervently for you in prayers, that ye may stand perfect and complete in all the will of God. For I bear him record, that he hath a great zeal for you, and them that are in Laodicea, and them in Hierapolis. Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you. Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house."

 

[Right Divider]

"Aristarchus my fellow prisoner greets you, with Mark the cousin of Barnabas (about whom you received instructions: if he comes to you, welcome him), and Jesus who is called Justus. These are my only fellow workers for the kingdom of God who are of the circumcision; they have proved to be a comfort to me."

Paul continues... "Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ, saluteth you, always labouring fervently for you in prayers, that ye may stand perfect and complete in all the will of God. For I bear him record, that he hath a great zeal for you, and them that are in Laodicea, and them in Hierapolis. Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you. Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house."

Yes, I've seen this lame attempt at "gentiling" Luke before.

Col 4:9-18 KJV With Onesimus, a faithful and beloved brother, who is one of you. They shall make known unto you all things which are done here. (10) Aristarchus my fellowprisoner saluteth you, and Marcus, sister's son to Barnabas, (touching whom ye received commandments: if he come unto you, receive him (11) And Jesus, which is called Justus, who are of the circumcision. These only are my fellowworkers unto the kingdom of God, which have been a comfort unto me. (12) Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ, saluteth you, always labouring fervently for you in prayers, that ye may stand perfect and complete in all the will of God. (13) For I bear him record, that he hath a great zeal for you, and them that are in Laodicea, and them in Hierapolis. (14) Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you. (15) Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house. (16) And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea. (17) And say to Archippus, Take heed to the ministry which thou hast received in the Lord, that thou fulfil it. (18) The salutation by the hand of me Paul. Remember my bonds. Grace be with you. Amen.

Note that LUKE and DEMUS "greet you". This passage is NOT listing the "circumcision" VS the "uncircumcision".

 

[OZOS]

Yes, I've seen this lame attempt at "gentiling" Luke before.

It's the same passage, in my Bible. And the word "only", in my Bible means "only".

 

[marke]

Paul did not write the book to the Hebrews no matter how much you stomp your feet in protest.

God inspired every book in the Bible and every book in the Bible is written for Christians.

1 Corinthians 10:11
Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

 

[OZOS]

God inspired every book in the Bible and every book in the Bible is written for Christians.

Every book in the Bible is written FOR everyone (Christian or not), but not every word or book is written TO everyone.

 

[Right Divider]

It's the same passage, in my Bible. And the word "only", in my Bible means "only".

You are seeing things that are not there.

The GREETING is from LUKE and DEMUS without regard to their status as circumcised or not.

 

[Right Divider]

God inspired every book in the Bible and every book in the Bible is written for Christians.

You are very confused. Every book of the Bible has value to everyone, but is not addressed directly to everyone.

1 Corinthians 10:11
Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

If you cannot understand that the target audience of the BOOK TO THE HEBREWS is Hebrews, then I don't know how to help you with that sort of blindness.

You probably has no idea what this means either.

Jas 1:1 KJV James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

 

[OZOS]

You are seeing things that are not there.

The GREETING is from LUKE and DEMUS without regard to their status as circumcised or not.

The word "only" is in the context, in my Bible.
Paul is speaking of his fellow workers, and Luke is excluded from those who are "only" of the circumcision.

"Aristarchus my fellow prisoner greets you, with Mark the cousin of Barnabas (about whom you received instructions: if he comes to you, welcome him), and Jesus who is called Justus. These are my only fellow workers for the kingdom of God who are of the circumcision; they have proved to be a comfort to me. Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ, saluteth you, always labouring fervently for you in prayers, that ye may stand perfect and complete in all the will of God. For I bear him record, that he hath a great zeal for you, and them that are in Laodicea, and them in Hierapolis. Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you. Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house."

Fellow workers of the circumcision:
Aristarchus
Mark
Jesus (Justus)

Fellow workers not of the circumcision:
Epaphras
Luke
Demas

 

[Right Divider]

The word "only" is in the context, in my Bible.
Paul is speaking of his fellow workers, and Luke is excluded from those who are "only" of the circumcision.

That is simply incorrect.

When speaking of Luke and Demus... Paul has started a completely different context. You can try to force it if you like, but you're wrong.

 

[OZOS]

That is simply incorrect.

When speaking of Luke and Demus... Paul has started a completely different context. You can try to force it if you like, but you're wrong.

LOL It is not "incorrect", and I am not "wrong", you're delusional. The "context" is Paul speaking of his fellow workers, whom he is including in his "greetings" to those whom he is writing. You can't possibly be that stupid. There is no transfer of context. He is naming his fellow workers, describing them, and extending their greetings. There are fewer texts in the Bible that are more clear. It's not even debatable. You're just being silly and for some reason, it must affect your house of cards.