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When was Jesus sent into the world? Get that right before moving on.
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When was Jesus sent into the world? Get that right before moving on.
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John 6:44-45 "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me".
The problem is fundamental: This passage is not unto salvation but son-ship in the Father, the afterwards of salvation, by Christ jesus.
There is much to learn from God without going to Christ throughout the OT. However,in the NT for the one who is anxious about His soul who knows there is a God, God can now point him to Jesus, the man, Who defined God by His life. [That is what missionaries are for, to point them to the "Way"].. Without the witness of God doing the pointing, going to Jesus doesn't make sense. Enter Peter's testimony in Acts 2:22-24 spoken to those seeking more of God that they would show up for the feast for His blessing. Now consider those who are hearing with no explanation/understanding what is being spoken of in tongues which, no doubt, they would not have been able to understand without one. Enter Peter who stood up and, God using him, pointed them to Jesus by way of Peter's pronouncements with evidence following. . .
The problem is fundamental: This passage is not unto salvation but son-ship in the Father, the afterwards of salvation, by Christ jesus.
There is much to learn from God without going to Christ throughout the OT. However,in the NT for the one who is anxious about His soul who knows there is a God, God can now point him to Jesus, the man, Who defined God by His life. [That is what missionaries are for, to point them to the "Way"].. Without the witness of God doing the pointing, going to Jesus doesn't make sense. Enter Peter's testimony in Acts 2:22-24 spoken to those seeking more of God that they would show up for the feast for His blessing. Now consider those who are hearing with no explanation/understanding what is being spoken of in tongues which, no doubt, they would not have been able to understand without one. Enter Peter who stood up and, God using him, pointed them to Jesus by way of Peter's pronouncements with evidence following. . .
I'm convinced by the Scripture, and by evident/plain reason. You?
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This is a public site. If you do not even know that, how is it you have common sense for the things of God?
It does not go well for you to ignore other scriptures. Jesus raised himself. If he did not raise himself, then he disobeyed God. Why do you want to make it as Jesus disobeyed his Father?
John 10:1
No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."
Think about what you are doing and why you are doing it.
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Jesus CAME from heaven.
No other man came from heaven.
You silly false judgements are only hurting yourself.
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Why do you want to ignore this??:
"Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
. . . . . . God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it". Acts 2:22-24(KJV)
One more: "But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you." Romans 8:11 (KJV)
So what Sprit would that be, GT?? What Spirit raised Jesus from the dead . . . . "because it was not possible that he, Jesus, should be holden of it???????
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You just went on ignore.
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I have already explained it to you before. Some scriptures say the Father raised Jesus, some say Jesus raised himself, and some say the Holy Spirit raised Jesus.
YOU CAN'T ignore the scriptures!
God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all one and same Holy Spirit. That is why they are interchangeable in the scriptures.
You better stop ignoring scripture. Reconcile.
John 10:18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."
lain:
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Lousy non answer. I don't expect it will ever change that integrity will come from you.<back on ignore>
Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Joh 17:18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
You are forcing your ignorant views onto scripture.
The Father has a Son called Jesus, who is not Himself.
The Father in Jesus said He would raise up Jesus from the dead as all other verses say He did.
LA
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Nice word!
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When did Jesus go into the world to begin His mission, LA? Take a crack at it and lets discuss.
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You say Jesus didn't raise himself so that means you call Jesus disobedient to the Father.
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You have to hide yourself because you ignore the scriptures.
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Sister, Your mind is made up and snapped shut so much so that no amount of light can get through the cracks.
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False judgement from you.
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But accurate, nonetheless.