Shots fired at Texas Mohammed art exhibit

[shagster01]

Freedom of expression = asking for it?

Sometimes.

 

[TomO]

I would have killed them myself if I was there and needed to. Does that satisfy you?

You carry? :think:

 

[shagster01]

You carry? :think:

I can, but usually don't.

 

[TomO]

I can, but usually don't.

Might be a good idea to add it to your habits.....Just sayin' lain:

 

[musterion]

I'd prefer stoners didn't but that's probably just me.

 

[shagster01]

He must think that people who mock Christianity are 'asking for it' too.

I guess that means hes 'asked for it' himself a few times.


Or does he think Islam deserves special consideration :think:

Let me ask you, if the family of a soldier killed in action got into a violent confrontation with Westborough protesters, would you not think Westborough was kinda asking for it with their "freedom of expression"?

 

[shagster01]

Exactly where I was headed...I want to see how consistent he is with this. Not very, I'll wager.

I got an infraction about two weeks ago for mocking Christianity. I was asking for it. I accept the results of my chosen expressions. I don't think the infraction was right, but I knew I might get it anyway.

I don't think that these Muslim shooters were right either, but it is a risk you run when hosting an event with the sole purpose of provoking extremists.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Let me ask you, if the family of a soldier killed in action got into a violent confrontation with Westborough protesters, would you not think Westborough was kinda asking for it with their "freedom of expression"?

Asking for it? No.

Asking for it in my mind is what you described where you admitted doing what you knew what wrong and expecting a reaction and then doing it anyway- and response is justified.

Thats asking for it. Its not justifiable to kill someone just because you don't like what they think.

 

[Tambora]

They are dead and condemned already.

Best news of the day. :up:

I would have killed them myself if I was there and needed to. Does that satisfy you?

That's the spirit. :thumb:

:thumb:

 

[Rusha]

I don't think that these Muslim shooters were right either, but it is a risk you run when hosting an event with the sole purpose of provoking extremists.

When it comes to extremists, there is no such thing as provoking. These people will look for any excuse to kill anyone who doesn't pledge allegiance to their beliefs. THAT, for them, would be provocation enough.

 

[shagster01]

Asking for it? No.

Asking for it in my mind is what you described where you admitted doing what you knew what wrong and expecting a reaction and then doing it anyway- and response is justified.

Thats asking for it. Its not justifiable to kill someone just because you don't like what they think.

So if I went into Crip territory with a red rag hanging out of my back pocket and throwing up Blood gang signs, and they shot me, I wouldn't have been asking for it because them shooting me still isn't justified? Is that cvorrect, even though I knew that expression might get me shot?

 

[Angel4Truth]

So if I went into Crip territory with a red rag hanging out of my back pocket and throwing up Blood gang signs, and they shot me, I wouldn't have been asking for it because them shooting me still isn't justified? Is that cvorrect, even though I knew that expression might get me shot?

That behavior would be called stupid and i would consider you mentally ill.

 

[shagster01]

That behavior would be called stupid and i would consider you mentally ill.

That's what I think about a Muhammad cartoon convention too.

 

[Angel4Truth]

That's what I think about a Muhammad cartoon convention too.

So its ok to make fun of Jesus or God, but not Muhammad or Allah?

 

[shagster01]

So its ok to make fun of Jesus or God, but not Muhammad or Allah?

I don't really care who you make fun of.

 

[Rusha]

So if I went into Crip territory with a red rag hanging out of my back pocket and throwing up Blood gang signs, and they shot me, I wouldn't have been asking for it because them shooting me still isn't justified? Is that cvorrect, even though I knew that expression might get me shot?

IMO, this is similar to asking if someone walking home after dark deserves to be shot, raped, killed, etc.

Most things we do involves some risks, however, should we allow those who would commit these acts to dictate our lives, freedoms and rights?

 

[shagster01]

IMO, this is similar to asking if someone walking home after dark deserves to be shot, raped, killed, etc.

Most things we do involves some risks, however, should we allow those who would commit these acts to dictate our lives, freedoms and rights?

It's not the same. Walking home after dark is not done with the sole purpose of provoking rapists. This art display did have the sole purpose of provoking extremists.

Risk of an action is different from purposely provoking an enemy.

And no, the shooters are not justified and should be stopped, as they were.

 

[Angel4Truth]

I don't really care who you make fun of.

yeah, you don't want to acknowledge the full ramifications of what you said, i understand.

 

[Angel4Truth]

IMO, this is similar to asking if someone walking home after dark deserves to be shot, raped, killed, etc.

Most things we do involves some risks, however, should we allow those who would commit these acts to dictate our lives, freedoms and rights?

:thumb:

 

[shagster01]

yeah, you don't want to acknowledge the full ramifications of what you said, i understand.

If I ran an art display of blasphemous Jesus cartoons with the sole purpose of mocking Christianity, and a wacko Christian extremist came in shooting, I would accept that that was a real risk I ran by doing the display. It would not justify the shooter, but it isn't like I wouldn't know what I was doing by putting the display up.