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Romans 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:


That is Paul talking about who?

 

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You are the one who doesn’t like much of the Bible when you try to change it to say what you want it to say. Where does that scripture say he came for all of Israel? That scriptures says he came unto his own..

Joh 1:11 KJV He came unto his own, and his own received him not.​

Read the ENTIRE verse, you Bible chopper!

The "His own" that He CAME TO.... RECEIVED HIM NOT.

That is CLEARLY not referring to faithful believing Israel.

Joh 1:12 KJV But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

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There it GOES ON to say that SOME did receive Him... that was BELIEVING ISRAEL.... Put those TWO TOGETHER and that is ALL OF ISRAEL.

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I proved to you that not all sheep and that some were wolves and that is the lame comeback you give.

It's only a "lame comeback" to someone as lacking understanding as yourself.
Thanks for acknowledging that you cannot understand the NUMEROUS figures of in the Bible.

P.S. Calling people sheep is a FIGURE OF SPEECH!

 

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Romans 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

That is Paul talking about who?

Paul is talking about those Israelite's that you call "cut off".

Paul is NOT including here ... He is EXCLUDING...

 

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Paul is talking about those Israelite's that you call "cut off".

Paul is NOT including here ... He is EXCLUDING...

Good grief, where do you ever get that I said he was including?!

Paul proves your ignorant teaching that Jesus came for all Israel is FALSE.

 

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It's only a "lame comeback" to someone as lacking understanding as yourself.
Thanks for acknowledging that you cannot understand the NUMEROUS figures of in the Bible.

P.S. Calling people sheep is a FIGURE OF SPEECH!

No kidding! You are lost all twisted up and confused.

You are the one who said Jesus came for all of Israel.

Jesus said he came for the lost sheep of Israel.

I gave scripture where Jesus tells us some are wolves in sheep's clothing.

 

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Good grief, where do you ever get that I said he was including?!

Say what you mean so that I don't have to guess. My guess was based on your typical false understanding of what verses like that mean.

Paul proves your ignorant teaching that Jesus came for all Israel is FALSE.

You prove that you do not understand the vast majority of scripture.

I noticed that you COMPLETELY ignore both the scripture that I gave you and my accurate explanation of it.

 

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Joh 1:11 KJV He came unto his own, and his own received him not.​

Read the ENTIRE verse, you Bible chopper!

The "His own" that He CAME TO.... RECEIVED HIM NOT.

He came to the JEWISH PEOPLE.

That is CLEARLY not referring to faithful believing Israel.

YOU SAID he came for ALL ISRAEL, and you said they were all lost sheep.

Joh 1:12 KJV But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:​

THAT is about EVERYONE being able to get saved, EVERYONE; Jew or Gentile.
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There it GOES ON to say that SOME did receive Him... that was BELIEVING ISRAEL.... Put those TWO TOGETHER and that is ALL OF ISRAEL.

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Wow, I think you are either just really confused or you are pretending what you said was normal.

 

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No kidding! You are lost all twisted up and confused.

That would be you.

You are the one who said Jesus came for all of Israel.

That's what the BIBLE says... I just showed you and you don't like the BIBLE.

Jesus said he came for the lost sheep of Israel.

So John was wrong?

I gave scripture where Jesus tells us some are wolves in sheep's clothing.

Still don't understand FIGURES OF SPEECH?

P.S. Calling people sheep is a FIGURE OF SPEECH!

 

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Say what you mean so that I don't have to guess. My guess was based on your typical false understanding of what verses like that mean.


You prove that you do not understand the vast majority of scripture.

I noticed that you COMPLETELY ignore both the scripture that I gave you and my accurate explanation of it.

You can't grasp the scriptures. You don't realize that what Paul said proves my beliefs and prove you wrong. You are so confused that you actually reversed what you said and what I said.

 

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That would be you.


That's what the BIBLE says... I just showed you and you don't like the BIBLE.


So John was wrong?


Still don't understand FIGURES OF SPEECH?

P.S. Calling people sheep is a FIGURE OF SPEECH!

Oh man you are messed up bad.

You said all Israel were the lost sheep!

Good grief man, humble yourself.

I don't know any other way you can get untangled.

 

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He came to the JEWISH PEOPLE.

Do you not know that "Jew" is OFTEN used to talk about Israel?

It's another kind of FIGURE OF SPEECH called a synecdoche: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche

Do you not understand that, when the Bible says "Jews and Gentiles", that is it talking about ALL of humanity?

YOU SAID he came for ALL ISRAEL, and you said they were all lost sheep.

The BIBLE says BOTH... what do you want to do? Flip a coin?

THAT is about EVERYONE being able to get saved, EVERYONE; Jew or Gentile.

Not in the CONTEXT of what is being said there.

Wow, I think you are either just really confused or you are pretending what you said was normal.

You have SO MUCH to learn and you are SO STUBBORN in your ignorance.

 

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You can't grasp the scriptures.

No.. AGAIN... that would be you.

You don't realize that what Paul said proves my beliefs and prove you wrong. You are so confused that you actually reversed what you said and what I said.

I take the Bible for what it really says; you turn it on its head.

 

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Do you not know that "Jew" is OFTEN used to talk about Israel?

It's another kind of FIGURE OF SPEECH called a synecdoche: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche

Do you not understand that, when the Bible says "Jews and Gentiles", that is it talking about ALL of humanity?


The BIBLE says BOTH... what do you want to do? Flip a coin?


Not in the CONTEXT of what is being said there.


You have SO MUCH to learn and you are SO STUBBORN in your ignorance.

You are lost.

Jesus came for the JEWS first, and only the Jews who were not cut off and hardened.

Then he was crucified and allowed ALL to come to him---the cut off Jews and the Gentiles.

 

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No.. AGAIN... that would be you.


I take the Bible for what it really says; you turn it on its head.

You are a mess.

 

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You are lost.

You're not my judge. Christ died for my sins and I believe Him. He saved me by His grace and not my efforts.

Jesus came for the JEWS first, and only the Jews who were not cut off and hardened.

Fairy tales for for children.

Then he was crucified and allowed ALL to come to him---the cut off Jews and the Gentiles.

Closest thing to true that you've posted in some time.

 

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You are a mess.

I can see how someone as confused as you would come to that conclusion.

 

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I can see how someone as confused as you would come to that conclusion.

It's worse for you than I thought.

 

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You're not my judge. Christ died for my sins and I believe Him. He saved me by His grace and not my efforts.

You think you escape what you do by speaking such lies about me and preaching a false gospel?

Fairy tales for for children.


Closest thing to true that you've posted in some time.

Everything Jesus taught while he walked the earth, he signed it with his blood. What Jesus taught IS FOREVER, and for everyone, not just for the Jews, AS YOU WRONGLY SAY.

 

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It's worse for you than I thought.

That I have to make sense out of your nonsense... indeed!