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I do good work every day.
And I already answered your questions.
The JEWS had Jesus killed, they had Stephen killed, and persecuted Paul and tried to kill him---BECAUSE THEY TAUGHT THAT JESUS JUSTIFIES AND IT IS NO MORE OF THE PURIFICATION WORKS OF THE LAW as given to MOSES.
Ok so
strike one: the Nazarite law is not listed in your copy pasta and that is the oath Paul did...
strike two: the seventh day Sabbath is not a purification work...it was instituted while everything was you know...already pure
strike three:
wrong again...just because you are obsessed with your idolatry does not mean it is in scripture...EVEN HERE in Acts 21
Acts 21:29 (They had previously seen Trophimus the Ephesian in the city with Paul and assumed that Paul had brought him into the temple.)
ummm...how many? You have a count? For weeks now you claim Jesus did away with shadows...apparently some believers now did NOT get that Email? WHICH IS IT? lemme guess...SECRET KNOWLEDGE LATER right? LOL
JUSTIFICATION THROUGH WORKS IS NOT TAUGHT IN THE OT...what is wrong with you? SERIOUSLY...it's like you NEVER get it...but your rebellion blinds you and makes you deaf and dumb...
the OT teaches FAITH FIRST and then works befitting repentance...you believe FIRST THEN obey...
you really think Israel walked out into the desert ON THEIR OWN expecting to be saved for it? They didn't even trust Him after witnessing first hand HIS POWER...
you really think Abram took his son and threatened to kill him ON HIS OWN expecting to be blessed for it?
you really think Noah just OUT OF THE BLUE SKIES started building a boat..."just cuz"...or think "I WILL MAKE IT FLOOD with this boat I build"
You really need to study and pray and well...maybe take a DAY OFF...
so sick and tired of how you and yours twist and abuse the scriptures..."NOT FOR ME" blinds the eyes AND HEART
NOT HERE YOU DONT
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absolute rubbish...lies and blasphemy
You absolutely make void what He did on the cross...besides tearing down the middle wall of separation making of TWO Jew and Greek ONE NEW MAN...and destroying with His flesh the enmity Jews had of the Greek...JOINING them...grafting them in to a root and trunk FOLLOWING HIM HIS WAY...adopting them INTO commonwealth of Israel NO LONGER STRANGERS...
Stephen was ACCUSED of teaching "Jesus changed the customs Moses delivered" Luke was CLEAR the Jews were FALSE WITNESSES intent on SLANDERING HIM and stirring the people up against him...Stephen was stoned for calling them uncircumcised murderers of the ONE he then saw in GLORY standing on the RIGHT HAND of the LAW GIVER...that is why they stoned him
Paul was likewise slandered and rumors abound that he too was teaching One resurrected and making available TO ALL His PROMISE...that it remained faith first and WORKS befitting repentance...
3 times Jews could NOT prove he was guilty of any of their FALSE WITNESS...and just as many times or more he claimed of himself NOT going against the Law as if it was done away with...
what did Paul say?
does FAITH annul the Law...certainly NOT...we establish the Law Romans 3:31
read that until you understand it remained FAITH FIRST AND THEN WORKS HE PREPARED FOR US TO DO
and cease your lies and abuse of scripture...
nope not that one which is the one Paul did despite you going on and on and on about how they were all done away with...Paul STILL did them...I gave the purification works for all the Jews to do.
still is...The Sabbath was part of the shadows
Yahushua said HIMSELF Sabbath was made for MAN...those that are His people keep itand was something the JEWS HAD TO DO to remain in God's covenant.
NOTHING TO DO WITH Acts 21Romans 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
NOT to be justified or SAVED...but because ONE ALREADY ISOf course the purification works were taught in the old testament.
read Heb 11 tell me faith isn't what justifies...No such thing.
The people couldn't even be saved while in Egypt before getting to the desert unless they DID WHAT GOD SAID TO DO, and it was about getting the blood of a lamb.
You claim Abraham did NOT have faith first...but just grabbed his son to sacrifice him just because...You speak like that and don't know how ignorant it is?
to straighten them out to match scriptureYou are a twister of my words
SHOW ME were NOAH began to build a boat JUST BECAUSE..."I am going to start a flood with this boat" SHOW ME where it is NOT FAITH FIRST in the OTand the scriptures.
The Jews didn't understand how Jesus did change the old law by fulfilling it. Just as you don't understand.
changing a law destroys the prior...He and the FATHER ARE ONE...and Father says I CHANGE NOT...now you would make Him a liar
and divide His House between those that did want to vs you and your "AINT FOR ME"
Jesus FULFILLED THE LAW, it was a shadow of Jesus.
Just like why they killed Stephan and tried to kill Paul.
nope not that one which is the one Paul did despite you going on and on and on about how they were all done away with...Paul STILL did them...
still is...
Yahushua said HIMSELF Sabbath was made for MAN...those that are His people keep it
NOTHING TO DO WITH Acts 21
this is the offense in Acts 21:
Acts 21:29 (They had previously seen Trophimus the Ephesian in the city with Paul and assumed that Paul had brought him into the temple.)
NOT to be justified or SAVED...but because ONE ALREADY IS
read Heb 11 tell me faith isn't what justifies...
SLAVES ARE POOR no slave would kill a lamb FOR NO REASON...spread its blood over the door WITHOUT INSTRUCTION...you really are too blind and rebellious...
THOSE NOT OF JACOB who had NOT DONE SHED THE BLOOD WENT WITH THEM...by faith...
You claim Abraham did NOT have faith first...but just grabbed his son to sacrifice him just because...
to straighten them out to match scripture
SHOW ME were NOAH began to build a boat JUST BECAUSE..."I am going to start a flood with this boat" SHOW ME where it is NOT FAITH FIRST in the OT
You side with the Jews their false witness...
and Satan who also said "not for me" and would change both times and Laws...
you really think each Jew had their own Pharisee to force them into everything?He did it because the Pharisee and teachers of the law enforce the law
the Law was NEVER DESIGNED TO JUSTIFY...but to point people to their need of justification salvation repentance and of a Savior...and HOW to find it...yes Yahushua was the GOAL of the OT LAW...the TELOS or principal aim purpose goal of it...Romans 10:4 the One Who does justify you and then...you ESTABLISH the Law so others can find their way to Him too...and it doesn't mean he stopped preaching the truth that the law of Moses does not justify, only through Jesus.
yup still is and still pointing out good things still to come...SO YOU MAY NEVER SAY IT WAS A SHADOW AGAIN ok? LOLIt is a shadow.
so you gonna ignore how wrong you were about why Paul was arrested in Acts 21? LOL...typical and just blabber on and on as if nothing needs changing...except His Law...LOL You would RATHER change His ETERNAL IMMUTABLE PERFECT Law than one of your mistaken posts...LOL I cant think of a more reprobate stance...Faith that Jesus' blood justifies those that believe they get cleaned by obeying Jesus.
this is EXACTLY what you are implying that they were saved without faith...just doing...That is too weird to bother trying to decipher.
of course there were those NOT OF JACOB that went with them...and had NOT shed the blood...if you saw your god get smacked around...you might choose another...No such thing.
right...faith first...compels works...Abraham did NOT grab his son for no reason or to please his God without His having asked for that...Faith and right action together.
That is too messed up to dignify with an answer.
You aren't in grace since you keep trying to get justified by the old law.
you really think each Jew had their own Pharisee to force them into everything?
the Law was NEVER DESIGNED TO JUSTIFY...but to point people to their need of justification salvation repentance and of a Savior...and HOW to find it...yes Yahushua was the GOAL of the OT LAW...the TELOS or principal aim purpose goal of it...Romans 10:4 the One Who does justify you and then...you ESTABLISH the Law so others can find their way to Him too...
yup still is and still pointing out good things still to come...SO YOU MAY NEVER SAY IT WAS A SHADOW AGAIN ok? LOL
You aren't making any sense.so you gonna ignore how wrong you were about why Paul was arrested in Acts 21? LOL...typical and just blabber on and on as if nothing needs changing...except His Law...LOL You would RATHER change His ETERNAL IMMUTABLE PERFECT Law than one of your mistaken posts...LOL I cant think of a more reprobate stance...
You wont even admit your errors here on TOL how can we trust you live “every day is Holy...” LOL
this is EXACTLY what you are implying that they were saved without faith...just doing...
And because they did it...it was to be justified...as YOU accuse me of over and over and over again...
of course there were those NOT OF JACOB that went with them...and had NOT shed the blood...if you saw your god get smacked around...you might choose another...
Oh wait you wouldnt...but not all Egyptians held on to their false gods and false worship as long as you do...
right...faith first...compels works...Abraham did NOT grab his son for no reason or to please his God without His having asked for that...
Why some people do things they are NOT asked to do is NOT out of faith in Him His ways... but to serve themselves...
But this is your claim that those that DO are DOING to justify themselves...
Noah was NOT building a boat trying to justify himself...just like those keeping the Sabbath Holy are NOT trying to justify themselves...or save themselves by their keeping It Holy...
Did ANY of the Israelites suddenly randomly without being instructed take a lamb to kill it and smear its blood on the door frame?
Did Abraham grab his son on his own inclination to offer him as a sacrifice to EARN His God’s affection?
Did you do anything to bring your mom and dad together to make you born?
God made the plan to go through Jesus before He made anything.Did you convince Yah He should offer His Son cuz “all days are Holy and I eat whatever I want and will live forever”?
I wanna try and keep His Ways BECAUSE of what He DID FOR me...and in gratitude for being saved by Him I want to do what He said will please...
BOTH the WORK He did to save WHOSOEVER believed
AND the work ANY WHOSOEVER believed are to do
were PREPARED LONG BEFORE WE WERE EVEN BORN...
I am justified by Him and what He did...and my faith NOW COMPELS I do that work He prepared
not your another gospel another christ “every day is Holy eat whatever live forever” idolatry
blame yourself you set the premise...Jews obeyed cuz they were afraid of other JewsThat is a weird quesiton.
you lie...so many times people get unclean merely to become clean again...now willful presumptious continuous deliberate sin is another issue...He leaves those reprobates like you to the end...to your own devices until...If a person did not do the purification works of the law, they did not have a relationship with God, they were without God in the world.
and now you conflate His people WITH the Law to those outside without His law...Ephesians 2:12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world.
YOU JUST POSTED IN THE PREVIOUS POST IT IS A SHADOW STILLNo such thing as the shadows still
yes I understand calling you out on your own pile of lies would NOT make sense to a reprobate mind uncircumcised heartYou aren't making any sense.
sadly some have more faith in their own clever idols and false worship...than what would please HimA person has to have faith and right action, or their faith is dead.
notice you yourself said believe FIRST and obey SECOND...It is always about believing and obeying God.
I do...and STILL points to good things still to come...His returnYou will just have to believe the scriptures that say the Sabbath is a shadow
LIAR...and shadows are now worthless.
blame yourself you set the premise...Jews obeyed cuz they were afraid of other Jews
Imagine Peter and Paul “yes yes we KNOW you did away with the OT...but it’s those Jews...they will hurt us if we stop doing what Moses taught from his seat” LOL
you lie...so many times people get unclean merely to become clean again...now willful presumptious continuous deliberate sin is another issue...He leaves those reprobates like you to the end...to your own devices until...
and now you conflate His people WITH the Law to those outside without His law...
You turning back to your eating pork is turning back to your own vomit...having heard the holy commandment and rejecting Him and His Ways
Someone else eating pork needs to hear the holy commandment so they can turn from their pork...and turn to Him His Ways...
And are to become citizens of Israel and circumcised and “inner jew” IS EXACTLY WHY we are to go out into the world and establish His Law...to win others TO HIM
YOU JUST POSTED IN THE PREVIOUS POST IT IS A SHADOW STILL
yes I understand calling you out on your own pile of lies would NOT make sense to a reprobate mind uncircumcised heart
sadly some have more faith in their own clever idols and false worship...than what would please Him
notice you yourself said believe FIRST and obey SECOND...
I do...and STILL points to good things still to come...His return
LIAR...
actually Jews couldnt find a reason why Abram was chosen. The best they could come up with was that Yah saw in him a man who “will command compassionate righteousness and moral justice” Gen 18:19God gave His affection to Abraham because Abraham obeyed.
you are the one rejecting faith and claim you obeyed something to earn somethingYou are really out there.
which you reject adding to His your own...”every day Holy...eat whatever...will live forever”God made the plan to go through Jesus before He made anything.
nope He did EVERYTHING before I was born...I just need to have faith believe and then DO as He prepared for me to do...teaching and modeling the NT lifestyle prior His death...the death of the Testator after which NO CHANGES...certainly NOT your “every day holy...eat whatever...live forever”Jesus doesn't save you first just because you say you believe!
and by their fruits and posting and claims...You know how many people call themselves Christian but aren't saved?
sure...I even fail...become unclean...but GRACE I know what I must do and wish to continue to please Him His Way...not my own golden calf...We see them all the time.
HalleluYah AND showed us the lifestyle of those saved...neat eh?Jesus tells us HOW TO GET SAVED.
yup...as John says claim to abide in Him you must live AS He does...One must do what he says to do to be the one he saves.
oh I do...just not to get saved...He does that I just believe He does...and certainly WANT to obey Him...live JUST AS He did...how about you? JUST AS?We have to believe that we have to obey Jesus.
well not anymore they claim...People that believe in God now have to go through Jesus and obey him.
you keep saying it and every time you are wrong...You are not in grace because you try to be justified by the old law.
LOL...I really should just back out of this and let you keep fighting yourself and the Spirit over this...Pay attention better. Jews did NOT obey because they were afraid. Jews acted out of line with the truth because they were afraid of the the zealous for the law Jews.
Is why they were afraid and acted out of line with the truth...WHICH YOU SAID THEY DID NOT DO?The Pharisees and teachers of the law still enforced the old law while the temple was still standing.
they could also wash and wait to sundown...there is ALWAYS GRACE to come back...unless like you one is deliberately reprobate loving their own idolatry more than Him His way...If a person did not do the purification works, then they were cut off.
nope I gave you scripture...here are they that keep the commandments of Yah and have the faith OF YahushuaJesus made a new covenant with new regulations and rules on how to be an heir and what you will recieve.
you started with “was” “is” “was” “is” “was”You are playing games.
not its back to “was”...Sabbath is neither but a perpetual sign and memorial of creation then exodus...one of the 10 not ceremonial or purification...given to ALL...stillThe purification works were a shadow and a teaching tool.
Paul disagrees...says good things are still coming...even lived as Christ did...even when far away from the TEMPLE POLICE...LOLNo one is to go by shadows anymore.
Mercy rather than sacrifice...and just like BETWEEN TEMPLES when there was NO temple Yah knows His own...still doing as best they can His Ways...Some no one can even do anymore.
So you going to do some and not others and pretend it is all good?
you can also obey and not have faith OR loveYou can also obey first and then have faith. See John 7:17.
Also see Acts 20:21
testifying to Jews and Greeks alike about repentance to God and faith in our Lord Jesus.
He taught “Do as they teach from Moses seat”...”until heaven and earth pass away NOT one jot or tittle will pass away from the Law”...If you are doing shadows and not his teachings then you are not in grace.
actually Jews couldnt find a reason why Abram was chosen. The best they could come up with was that Yah saw in him a man who “will command compassionate righteousness and moral justice” Gen 18:19
you are the one rejecting faith and claim you obeyed something to earn something
which you reject adding to His your own...”every day Holy...eat whatever...will live forever”
nope He did EVERYTHING before I was born...I just need to have faith believe and then DO as He prepared for me to do...teaching and modeling the NT lifestyle prior His death...the death of the Testator after which NO CHANGES...certainly NOT your “every day holy...eat whatever...live forever”
Noah did NOT build the ark without believing and having faith that the rain was coming first...
Israel did NOT go into the desert without believing and having faith FIRST...
You ever been to a wedding? Did you ever shout out “you’re just doing this to fall in love with each other”
Did you ever clean a house to try and earn it...own it?
What did you do to bring your parents together to make you?
You don't understand that scripture about filthy rags.You think my filthy rags works earned me justification...
You repeat this FALSE WITNESS just to distance yourself from reality like an insolent little girl with her finger in her ears stomping on the ground “NO NO NO NO”...trying to convince herself...