Katie
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No I don't agree with their agenda, which is a one world religion and goverment.
Thats one view found among christians, I am not among those who believe in eternal punishment.
I am glad for the latter, and I hope this is something that more Christians will come to realize as well ... that God is not with malicious intent for His creation.
As for the former in the above, I am not ignorant of oppressions ... far from it. And I would not, and can not negate the difficult circumstances of those who are suffering and/or afflicted due to oppressions. I even understand how difficult it is to remember the goodness of God when looking around, especially since there seems to be so much that speaks to hopelessness and almost even it can feel like a type of abandonment ... nevertheless, I am always brought back to the rememberance of Who is the One "holding me in the Palm of His 'Hand.'" I am reminded that His Creation ALWAYS begins first in me (you surly are aware of the parable that teaches how the inside of the cup must first be made clean) ... then, you should understand what is meant when we say 'esoterically speaking,' of course. We learn from those who "govern" over us, whether it be by force of a few or by the will of the majority. I only know to take the lessons to heart, but first as it applies to me. Mostly, it is in our best interest to know that we CAN and should trust in God.
I think God so loved the world that He sent His Son as a substitutional sacrifice for the off spring of adam, all are dead in old adam without hope.
The judgments are the key to understanding the goodness of God as the Creator, Genesis 3. The judgments of God are good for knowledge, understanding, and ultimately for Wisdom. The foreknowledge (insight) of God into His creation can clearly be seen by the conceptual allegory of Genesis 2-3 when one takes the time to try and understand (without preconceived notions given to us of others) the rest of the Tanach (especially according to Proverbs 2:1-11).
Who is the Son of God? Exodus 4:22-23 ... and this is the one who is given to know the judgments of God, which the Psalmist himself testifies of in Psalm 147:19-20. Israel, then, becomes the one who is conceptually known as Wisdom. In Proverbs it is said that Wisdom DANCES, plays, and finds enjoyment in God's creation, even whilst He is *still* creating ... and He is ... even now, still creating! Psalm 149, for instance, speaks of Israel in the same way that Proverbs speaks of Wisdom.
Jesus the foreordained Lamb of God before the foundation of the World, the Word made flesh, Who was with God and was God humbled himself and left glory to become mans kinsmen redeemer, through his shed blood man is freed from the bondage of sin and death. If Jesus be not risen then we are dead in our sins and are preaching vain.
No other christ, or religion will do, no spiritist doctrine of One that tells you the answer is in your self, no utopia without the real Prince of peace.
What do you do with the statements that are attributed to Jesus saying that he did not come to bring peace, and quite the opposite? Just curious.
I am of the impression that Joseph, the son of Jacob, is a great example, IMHO, of what a Prince of Peace is essentially.
He was a righteous man, a wise ruler, and the best (most clear) example given in the Bible ... yet often overlooked. From his very beginning, he was pure in his heart, and yet full of wisdom so that he was able to be used for the good of all those in whom he would eventually 'oversee.' He did not fight against those who wrongfully mistreated, accused, and/or forgot him. He suffered a great deal more in his innocency than most of us could ever or should ever complain of ... yet, he still always did what was right for the greater good of the People, as well as for the individual; first the Egyptians (who had become his People), and then for his brothers (as well as the rest of the family) who would come to him later in need of help during the time of the great famine. As I said, but am repeating again for the sake of emphasizing the point, there is a lot that seems to be overlooked in regard to Joseph ...
it seems to be the case in the NT as well, I have more recently come to be aware of.
With Joseph, there was the creation ("finger") of God in his personal life first ... and this, for a specific purpose that would ultimately extend outward to show forth the goodness of God, not only in the eyes of the Egyptians and Joseph's own family, but to the peoples living in many of the surrounding lands.
There are specific details in the first link that touch quite deeply on this greater Wisdom of God's Creation. It is testified of in the Tanach, and even the very way in which Nature, itself, is conducted. That the author sees the "fingerprint" of God's 'work' in what otherwise is being proclaimed by many others as a chaotic mess of ... well, nothing ... is not something I personally can deem as being evil, and rather it should be taken as it is meant to be: an insightful and creative reminder that we are not without hope in the world.
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