Religious Zealotry

marke

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There is truly no compelling evidence that God or gods even exist. Syllogisms don't cut it. The Bible is suspect as a source- period. Yet- you act like you have direct knowledge and endorse the view that people who commit non-violent transgressions should die. You are simply a hateful person. There is no excuse for you as you are not a doltish simpleton like many who share your interpretation.
God has hidden Himself from idiots who think they are geniuses for declaring there is no God because idiots cannot see or touch Him.

Luke 10:21
In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
 

PureX

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America has degenerated to the point that leftists are now teaching school kids in elementary grades how to give and receive homosexual pleasures, and pornographic images are also used by the 'teacher.' That is perverted, is abusive to children, and destructive to civilization.
This has never happened anywhere in any school in the U.S. (or anywhere else), ever. When you post absurd lies like this you loose all credibility.
When I was a school kid who transgressed the rules was spanked and school violence was rare. Modern schools lack proper discipline and violence is out of control.
Correlation is not causation. Violence is a poor teacher as all it teaches is that "might makes right".
 

marke

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This has never happened anywhere in any school in the U.S. (or anywhere else), ever. When you post absurd lies like this you loose all credibility.

Correlation is not causation. Violence is a poor teacher as all it teaches is that "might makes right".
Don't spread misinformation. Buck up and do some research instead of spouting off lies due to ignorance.


New curriculum in Austin, Texas encourages even pre-pubescent children to consider “vaginal intercourse,” “oral intercourse,” and “anal intercourse.”13 Angry parents have gone to school board meetings demanding to know who gave the school district the right to teach their child how to have anal and oral sex.14
 

Hoping

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Christians can and should walk in newness of life, which is why we are told to walk in the Spirit and not in the flesh.


Romans 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
My favorite chapter in the bible is Romans 6.
 

PureX

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Don't spread misinformation. Buck up and do some research instead of spouting off lies due to ignorance.


New curriculum in Austin, Texas encourages even pre-pubescent children to consider “vaginal intercourse,” “oral intercourse,” and “anal intercourse.”13 Angry parents have gone to school board meetings demanding to know who gave the school district the right to teach their child how to have anal and oral sex.14
Never happened.
 

annabenedetti

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The goal of educating children about sexuality does not come from a sexual feeling. Isn't it obvious that children need some information about sexuality prior to having their own sexual feelings.

There can be a discussion and reasonable disagreement over what is age-appropriate. Your blanket treatment on this issue is faulty. This is an example where your religion has impaired your ability to evaluate information.

I'm guessing kids who grow up on a farm are pretty well educated before they ever start school...
 

Catholic Crusader

Kyrie Eleison
aka pedophilia
aka groomers
aka democrats

and then back we come to my first post in this thread:

zeal·ot·ry
[ˈzelətrē]

NOUN
zealotry (noun)

fanatical and uncompromising pursuit of religious, political, or other ideals; fanaticism:​

The most dangerous and evil zealotry in America today is the political zealotry of the Left. They are currently harassing and threatening supreme court judges right in front of their homes. No Christian in America behave like that.

Democrats burn down cities and kill cops with their BLM and Antifa, Democrats sexually pervert and groom little children right in the classroom.

To complain about religious zealotry is to live in a fantasy world of anti-God hate. The true enemy on the world today is the political Left.
 

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Whose doing that?

Too many to count.

Would it be reasonable to tell an eight year old child: as they get older usually boys like to kiss girls, girls like to kiss boys, less often some boys like to kiss boys, some girls like to kiss girls, some like to kiss both. People have different ideas about what is okay, but in the school setting, we treat everyone with respect?

No, it would not.

How well does that work?

Far better if the law said that if a man and a woman are caught having sex outside of marriage, they would be fore

Reinforcement,

Only teaches rewards and consequences. It does not teach pain.

token economy,

AKA reinforcement.

response cost,

AKA reinforcement.

time-out,

We have time out already. It's called prison (time-out for adults). It doesn't work, and is inhumane.

calculated ignoring,

Is cruel, especially to children.

hand over hand techniques, etc.

Only works for teaching people how to do things. It doesn't look like it teaches consequences to actions.

None of the above are proper punishment for misbehavior.

True, the level of abuse made a difference.

I'm not talking about abuse. I'm talking about spanking.

However, spanking alone still had a negative impact.

"Spanking alone" will have a negative impact.

No one has said to "just spank and do nothing else."

In anonymous questionnaires? And, how do you know the truth of the matter?

Yeah. Your point?

Well I'm glad you admit it.

Others I've asked the question to either refuse to answer or outright deny that homosexuals can be pedophiles.

You are not God.

PureX, you need to stop making this accusation. NO ONE HERE IS CLAIMING TO BE GOD.

AGAIN, I said that I quoted Jesus. That's not me claiming to be God. That's me QUOTING God.

No one needs to come to you and repent.

Jesus said otherwise, PureX. Again:

Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him.And if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day returns to you, saying, ‘I repent,’ you shall forgive him.” - Luke 17:3-4 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke17:3-4&version=NKJV

He was very explicit that you only forgive someone if they repent.

Forgiving someone when they haven't repented teaches them that they do not have to repent before God for Him to forgive them. It makes forgiveness superfluous.

Thinking we're right doesn't make us right, no matter how intently we think it. And because this is ALWAYS so, my self-assumed righteousness does not EVER extend beyond me. And if I try to force it into the reality of others, I become an agent not only of the abuse of others, but an agent in contention with God, because I am appointing myself God's agency.

Faith is not a process of lying to ourselves until we believe it, by pretending that we cannot be wrong. Because we can, and we very often are. To presume that we aren't would be to adopt a lie as the truth. And to tell others that we aren't is to lie to them. And faith is not the dishonest pretense of our own righteousness.

Hypocrite.

Very doubtful. Besides a one in a million incident with a crackpot teacher, there is no such content being delivered at that age. Get real.

Someone's not paying attention to the news...

Spurious correlation.

The death penalty is not a deterrant for crimes borne of impulsivity and hopelessness.

Uh, yeah it is.

Especially for crimes of impulsivity. "Oh, I feel like going and murdering someone I hate today.... wait, if I'm caught, I'll be publicly executed."

What Nine percent of the population does with there personal lives can not really have a giant impact.

False.

The "point" that God doesn't speak to people anymore.
I can assure you that He does.

Through scripture? Sure. But He doesn't speak directly in an audible voice.


False.

Nope, it is all truly of God.

Thanks be to God we don't live under the Mosaic Law.

Romans 1 is Mosaic Law?

OT punishments by men are now totally in the hands of God.

Romans 1 is in the OT?

In fact, I don't even know if the unbelieving Jews still hold those customs, even though they are still trying to be justified by the Law.

Irrelevant.

I don't believe God has commanded you to put homosexuals to death.

God has commanded that homosexuals who act out their homosexuality be put to death.

There is truly no compelling evidence that God or gods even exist.

There is truly plenty of compelling evidence that God exists.

Syllogisms don't cut it.

Deductive reasoning does work.

The Bible is suspect as a source- period.

False - period.

Yet- you act like you have direct knowledge

Because the Bible is true.

and endorse the view that people who commit non-violent transgressions should die.

Not quite. People who commit capital crimes should die, or bear false witness in a capital crime trial.

You are simply a hateful person.

It's more hateful to go along with people's wickedness.

It's not hateful to care about someone's eternal destination.

There is no excuse for you as you are not a doltish simpleton like many who share your interpretation.

Clete is indeed very smart.
 

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This has never happened anywhere in any school in the U.S. (or anywhere else), ever

Get your head out of the sand.

Never happened.

How about this stuff? Never happened?

 

annabenedetti

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Of course he was older.

‘Sins of the Amish’ Reveals Bombshell Allegations of Cyclical Rape, Incest, and Physical Abuse


By far the most damning piece of the puzzle is the way some Amish leaders brainwash their youngsters to believe that nightmares like rape and incest are not just normal, but always the girl’s fault. While unpacking some of her old Amish materials, Mary uncovers one of her old sex education pamphlets titled “To the Girl of Eleven,” one of the only informative resources she had.

“This sex urge, once it is awakened and active in a young boy at the age of puberty and beyond, can become a powerful driving force within. Every decent girl will do her best to help him, and not make it harder for him. Even in your own home, if you have brothers in your teens, you should be mindful of this,” she reads. “Your brother innocently coming upon you and seeing your partly uncovered body may suddenly have strong sexual desires aroused within him. His intentions were not bad, but he suddenly finds himself a victim of your carelessness in the lust of his own body.”

The pamphlet also encourages young girls not to appear in scanty nightclothes or climb up ladders around their male family members, to keep their dress closed, and to close their door at night so that their brothers do not feel inclined to molest their sisters if they spot them half-naked in bed.

Still, a closed door didn’t prevent Mary’s brother from raping her in the middle of the night. She says she used to sprint to her room before he could catch her, but locking the door wasn’t enough.

“He would take off the hinges,” Mary tearfully recalls. “I remember him grabbing me and then I remember instantly splitting into two people. Like I wasn’t even there. When I came back, the door was closing, and he was gone.”

Mary eventually left the community and took her two abusive brothers to court. It would be hard to argue there was justice. Her elder brother Johnny, who confessed to raping Mary upwards of 200 times, was given one year in jail with the ability to leave and work, and 10 years of probation. Along with that, busloads of Amish people arrived at the hearing to defend Mary’s rapist brothers.

“I have a feeling she is doing this out of spite more than anything,” Mary’s own mother wrote to the judge. “Ever since I learned to know Mary personally, she had a habit of making things sound worse than they really are.”

Why the flurry of hate towards Mary? There is the belief that speaking out against rape is actually a worse sin than the rape itself. To publicly accuse an Amish brother of such an act is to ruin his life, so you must forgive him instead of going to the police or spreading gossip.

On top of this abuse, “the Lord commands” that physical discipline must begin at 3 months old, meaning Amish fathers are expected to beat their children from infancy. One woman recounts how her father used to ask her baby sister to clap and smile, and when she inevitably didn’t—babies can’t understand words—the father would beat the baby.
 
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