Says the dude who of late can only manage to pop out a few emoticons in response to me.Nope... you are so confused and yet you like to try to sound so "smart".
Says the dude who of late can only manage to pop out a few emoticons in response to me.Nope... you are so confused and yet you like to try to sound so "smart".
Thinking we're right doesn't make us right, no matter how intently we think it. And because this is ALWAYS so, my self-assumed righteousness does not EVER extend beyond me. And if I try to force it into the reality of others, I become an agent not only of the abuse of others, but an agent in contention with God, because I am appointing myself God's agency.@PureX do you have a hand? And whether you say yes or no, are you telling me that somehow, because man is fallible, that you have to discount the truth of your answer? Just because you're fallible?
Purex I agree 100% we are fallible, there's only ever been One perfect Son of Man (cf. the book of Daniel) and He is God. The rest and or best of us are all fallible. To err is human.
But does that mean you're only 99.999% sure you do or you don't have a hand?
Note that in the case that you're dreaming, it doesn't matter whether you're rational or not, it only matters if you're not dreaming, or if you want to win in your dream. If you're only dreaming, and you don't care if you win in your dream, I'm drawing a parallel between a dream and a video game here, then being rational and logical doesn't matter. It only matters if either this is not a dream, or if it is a dream, and you still want to win the dream, and not just watch what happens in it, passively.
Does it help me prosper if I hold out one part per million doubt about everything I otherwise would have no Earthly reason to doubt in any trace contaminant level at all? It does not. In fact it could only ever be for you a stumbling stone, the best it could be is irrelevant, but it could lead you down a path where the outcome is significantly inferior from if you just accepted things like "I have a hand" with 100% infallibility.
So what? Who cares?Says the dude who of late can only manage to pop out a few emoticons in response to me.
America has degenerated to the point that leftists are now teaching school kids in elementary grades how to give and receive homosexual pleasures, and pornographic images are also used by the 'teacher.' That is perverted, is abusive to children, and destructive to civilization.The goal of educating children about sexuality does not come from a sexual feeling. Isn't it obvious that children need some information about sexuality prior to having their own sexual feelings.
There can be a discussion and reasonable disagreement over what is age-appropriate. Your blanket treatment on this issue is faulty. This is an example where your religion has impaired your ability to evaluate information.
When I was a school kid who transgressed the rules was spanked and school violence was rare. Modern schools lack proper discipline and violence is out of control.The research shows that other forms of discipline are as effective without modelling violence. A significant minority of youth that were routinely spanked display syndrome of depression, anger, and aggression in adolescence. A subgroup that is virtually nonexistence without such punishment.
Softening on crime and eliminating the death penalty are major factors underlying the skyrocketing increase of violent crimes in America.Your belief that nonviolent transgressions be met with the death penalty is immoral. Some Christians can claim they have the moral high ground. You are not one of them.
Homosexuality is sick, unhealthy, immoral, unnatural, perverted, and destructive to societies.Appeal to popularity.
Someone who wishes to change Heather has Two Mommies to Heather has NO Mommies is immoral.
Research has not shown this to be true. Most homosexuals do not claim any such abuse. Most pedophiles are ostensibly heterosexual.
I saw a Pride parade once. A pretty tame affair actually. The Lipstick Lesbian float was interesting. The P-flag marchers were a large group holding inspiring and humorous signs.
The goal of educating children about sexuality does not come from a sexual feeling. Isn't it obvious that children need some information about sexuality prior to having their own sexual feelings.
There can be a discussion and reasonable disagreement over what is age-appropriate.
Your blanket treatment on this issue is faulty.
This is an example where your religion has impaired your ability to evaluate information.
The research shows that other forms of discipline are as effective without modelling violence.
A significant minority of youth that were routinely spanked display syndrome of depression, anger, and aggression in adolescence. A subgroup that is virtually nonexistence without such punishment.
Your belief that nonviolent transgressions be met with the death penalty is immoral.
Some Christians can claim they have the moral high ground.
You are not one of them.
Appeal to popularity.
Someone who wishes to change Heather has Two Mommies to Heather has NO Mommies is immoral.
Research has not shown this to be true.
Most homosexuals do not claim any such abuse.
Most pedophiles are ostensibly heterosexual.
I saw a Pride parade once.
Very doubtful. Besides a one in a million incident with a crackpot teacher, there is no such content being delivered at that age. Get real.America has degenerated to the point that leftists are now teaching school kids in elementary grades how to give and receive homosexual pleasures, and pornographic images are also used by the 'teacher.'
Spurious correlation.When I was a school kid who transgressed the rules was spanked and school violence was rare. Modern schools lack proper discipline and violence is out of control.
The death penalty is not a deterrant for crimes borne of impulsivity and hopelessness.Softening on crime and eliminating the death penalty are major factors underlying the skyrocketing increase of violent crimes in America.
What Nine percent of the population does with there personal lives can not really have a giant impact.Homosexuality is sick, unhealthy, immoral, unnatural, perverted, and destructive to societies.
So instead of getting mad and ending a conversation because I insult you, why don't you forgive instead you stupid humanoid?You are not God. No one needs to come to you and repent.
You are wrong, likely due to lack of information and a limited awareness of facts.Very doubtful. Besides a one in a million incident with a crackpot teacher, there is no such content being delivered at that age. Get real.
The death penalty is a deterrent to violence.Spurious correlation.
The death penalty is not a deterrant for crimes borne of impulsivity and hopelessness.
The ignorant and deluded do not understand why morality is key to the survival of good societies. Leftist atheist communist fascists know the effect immorality has on a nation, which is why they promote immorality to weaken and destroy America.What Nine percent of the population does with there personal lives can not really have a giant impact.
I do forgive. And anyway, I'm not insulted. The attempts around here are weak and of no consequence. So I disengage when I can see that my antagonist can't meaningfully interact any further.So instead of getting mad and ending a conversation because I insult you, why don't you forgive instead you stupid humanoid?
Whose doing that? Would it be reasonable to tell an eight year old child: as they get older usually boys like to kiss girls, girls like to kiss boys, less often some boys like to kiss boys, some girls like to kiss girls, some like to kiss both. People have different ideas about what is okay, but in the school setting, we treat everyone with respect ?No, it's not obvious, and introducing children to sexual behavior before they are even halfway to puberty is child abuse.
How well does that work?The only discussion of sex that a parents should teach their children, when they reach the age of puberty, is that they should be abstinent from it until they marry.
That is the only age-appropriate information they should hear.
Reinforcement, token economy, response cost, time-out, calculated ignoring, hand over hand techniques, etc.The research shows that other forms of discipline are as effective without modelling violence. Other forms, such as?
True, the level of abuse made a difference. However, spanking alone still had a negative impact.How many of those were simply beaten out of anger, rather than spanked by a parent was calm, but stern?
It makes a difference.
In anonymous questionnaires? And, how do you know the truth of the matter?Because admitting they were abused would be embarrassing.
Yeah. Your point?Is is possible for there to be a homosexual pedophile?
That's insulting.Your attempts at it are weak and of no consequence.
Only if the insults in question were meant to be strong and effective.That's insulting.
I did see it, but by the grace of God the context shows exactly what sort of perfection he had yet to attain.Your reading comprehension is poor.
Note the "either were already perfect" part.
No, I am not...but I am in Christ, and as there is no sin in Christ, sinners are not in Christ either.You're not Christ.
We are obviously on different tracks.Of course it is. None of us reach the level of spiritual perfection that is Christ. The best we can do is try, and repent when we fail. It's why forgiveness is tantamount to Christianity. And why refusing to forgive others for their sins only condemns us of our own.
Yep, a little twisting of what God says caused Eve to disobey at the beginning, and it continues today.And greed into righteous reward. And ego into self-righteousness. And justice into vengeance. And ...
People seek (and often find) the God that justifies who they already are rather than exemplifies who they need to become. And sadly, too many religious expressions and religious groups are all to willing to provide them with whatever gods they're looking for.
Agreed.A lot of self-proclaimed Christians don't know or care what Christ is. All they know or care about is the idea of Christ that ratifies their base personality and instincts. And they quote-mine the Bible in the same way, for the same reason.
It is the end of the unrighteous zealot's spiel.That is how God wants it, because that is how it is. Trying to force the world to comply with our ideas of God is trying to play God, ourselves. And that always ends in death and disaster. Yet in the end, that is always the 'zealot's' goal: to rule over the world and everyone in it as if he were God, himself. And he will stoop to any immorality to obtain that absolute control. Lies, torture, murder, the means always justifies the ends for him, because he thinks he is God's right hand.
The "point" that God doesn't speak to people anymore.On which point?
He does.Of course He does. But that doesn't change the fact that He does not currently speak to people directly.
Nope, it is all truly of God.How about what the Bible says? Is that contrary to God?
Thanks be to God we don't live under the Mosaic Law.You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.Nor shall you mate with any animal, to defile yourself with it. Nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it. It is perversion. . . . For whoever commits any of these abominations, the persons who commit them shall be cut off from among their people. - Leviticus 18:22-23,29 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus18:22-23,29&version=NKJV
(reminder that "cut off" is a Hebrew idiom that means "to put to death")
If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. - Leviticus 20:13 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus20:13&version=NKJV
Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves,who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers,backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful;who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them. - Romans 1:24-32 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans1:24-32&version=NKJV
Christians can and should walk in newness of life, which is why we are told to walk in the Spirit and not in the flesh.We are obviously on different tracks.
My old man, the sinners, was crucified with Christ and buried by water baptism. (Rom 6:3-7)
I now walk in newness of life, in Christ, in whom is no sin.
Why change the tense?God is not wrong.
I don't believe God has commanded you to put homosexuals to death.Why change the tense?
I find it fascinating when people refuse to give a straight answer to questions that answer themselves.
Of course God was not wrong when He said that those who commit homosexual acts are to be put to death.
The real question is why do you say otherwise?
There is truly no compelling evidence that God or gods even exist. Syllogisms don't cut it. The Bible is suspect as a source- period. Yet- you act like you have direct knowledge and endorse the view that people who commit non-violent transgressions should die. You are simply a hateful person. There is no excuse for you as you are not a doltish simpleton like many who share your interpretation.Of course God was not wrong when He said that those who commit homosexual acts are to be put to death.