This was over 10 years ago and I believe the young people then thought that consent was enough.
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This was over 10 years ago and I believe the young people then thought that consent was enough.
I've told no lie about you.
They spew out all these extreme scenarios.
But none of them will say where the line should be drawn when it comes to what the behavior of a woman should be in order to not be responsible or deserve to have their body raped by another.
None of them want to tackle that, because they know how stupid it will make their argument look.
Yup!
ClimateSanity
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Choice of behavior is a freedom. With freedom comes responsibility. Every choice we make has a consequence. There is no choice that would guarantee not being raped. There is no choice that would guarantee not having bad consequences. Over time, we gain wisdom and realize that a narrower set of choices brings about much less pain and misery. It is foolish behavior to learn the wise thing to do, and yet not do it. It is childish to continue to do that behavior and then cry foul when bad things happen. It is the mindset of a little god to demand they can do whatever they please with no bad consequence whatsoever. This does not mean they deserve what they get. It means they are not realizing that this is a sinful world, and you must behave wisely to reduce your risk of pain. Your employee should have been aware of statutory rape. Its all over the news and there were special programs like to catch a predator that dealt with it. He must have been living in a cave to be unaware of it all.
musterion
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Another misrepresentation.
I've been saying from the start that this isn't limited to only women or to rape. If anyone puts themselves into a situation they should know has a probable degree of danger that should be avoided but goes ahead anyway, they're knowingly taking that risk. That's called personal responsibility, not "deserve." That's all I've said this whole time. Even Bybee sort of acknowledged it last week. Besides, that position is simple biblical truth.
Go ahead and argue with it.
He was a teenager. He had sex with his steady girl friend. She agreed. It was not forced. This would not have been a case for the law in my day. It would have meant that they were to be married.
Now, A young fellow is branded for life.
If we all were without sin we could cast stones. The law has become rediculously punitive.
Scantly clad women fueled with alcohol, can lead to rapes
Frat boys fueled with alcohol can lead to rape....
glorydaz
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glorydaz
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Sort of acknowledging it is simply a slip up....an oopsie.
Back in the old days, before women's lib came to the fore, we knew quite well what you're saying. We told our kids not to do something, and when they did it, we had no problem saying, "Well, you asked for it....when you did what you were told not to do. Well, you deserved it because you did what you were told not to do." But now the PC TYRANTS have entered the fray. We must play by their rules and claim people do NOT deserve any consequences for their actions. They are ALL innocent victims. As soon as someone becomes a victim, they are declared INNOCENT no matter what they were doing before they became a victim. Calling evil good and good evil is a sign we are in the last days. And woe be unto those who dare to call stripping and dirty dancing bad behavior. And woe be unto those who dare to say they suffer CONSEQUENCES for that bad behavior. And woe be unto those who dare to say man does NOT get to decide what those consequences will be. Bad behavior is risky behavior. Which is basic common sense that the pc police refuse to recognize. :nono:
Now you're being raped by the PC Tyrants, Musty. Aren't you glad you dared to speak up?
Who exactly do those *scantly clad women* rape?
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Regret is not rape.
The line pretty much ends there- you make a wrong decision while intoxicated, then that's your own fault.
These are the same women who would break up with their boyfriend or consider divorcing their husband if they got drunk and cheated on them. It's funny how one-sided the whole thing is. But, it is 'feminism' after all, not 'egalitarianism'.
ClimateSanity
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I actually agree with your last statement. Some of your PC friends are in full agreement with the punitive statute.
musterion
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Aren't you glad you dared to speak up?
I'm indifferent because I know I'm right.
glorydaz
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Not from the victim, no.
But there is a choice that would guarantee not being raped, but that choice comes from the rapist only.
When it comes to rape, the only one guilty or responsible is the rapist.
It makes no difference if the woman was drunk, half naked, and stripping, or was at home in her own bed wearing curlers, face cream, and flannel pjs.
The only reason a rape occurs in any situation is because the rapist made a choice to rape.
The guilt is his alone.
The responsibility is his alone.
The blame is his alone.
I haven't seen a sole say such a thing.
You want me to believe that you posted those scenarios to show that a woman never deserves to have her body raped?
Is that why you posted them?
I think not.
I think you were looking for another response other than: a woman never deserves to have her body raped.
The only thing that leads to rape is the choice of the rapist to rape.
Pretty simple concept ... unless one desires to make excuses for the rapist ...
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