WizardofOz
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No, that's your own personal opinion. You keep saying there is no middle ground because you don't want there to be.
You cannot say that she should never have to give up her bodily autonomy in favor of the fetus but also suggest that such a position offers "middle ground".
If she should never have to give up her bodily autonomy then all abortion is legal anytime and for any reason.
Again, those are mutually exclusive statements. It's not simply an opinion that they are.
You know that most people have no problem with early term abortions, so you want to force all pro choice people to defend late term abortions in hopes of turning people pro life.
If you feel that women should never have to give up her bodily autonomy then you're putting yourself in a position of having to defend late-term abortions. :think:
:sigh:I personally have no qualms with late term abortion for other people. I don't care.
Fair enough. Is it OK that I do care?
Partial birth abortions, for example, do not strike you as immoral and/or unnecessary?
Elaborate.
A fetus is a new human. An organ is a part of a human. When you abort, you are not removing a part of yourself, you are removing another human.
That's just for starters. Comparing organ donation to abortion shows a lack of comprehension of the biological facts that differentiate between the two.
But, I'll humor you. If you went to a doctor and told him to remove one of your lungs, do you think he/she would do so if there was no reason to do so?
That depends on the state. Some states have no limit on abortion.
Which state? Please include a citation. :e4e:
What if only the mother will die?
How can a fetus survive inside a dead mother?
I'm not asking about Ron Paul's opinion. I'm asking about yours and what punishments you would like to see handed down to women that have abortions. Yet you can't even give me a straight answer or max/min prison term limit.
Because, again, it would depend. What is the prison term for manslaughter? It depends. There is no cookie cutter sentence for feticide nor for most crimes. You're not looking for a straight answer, you're looking for a simple answer.
There is no simple answer as it depends on A) jurisdiction B) circumstances of the case C) criminal history of the defendants
Like all criminal cases, there are a plethora of factors that are weighed before determining a sentence.
If you were curious research feticide or suggest a state and I can offer a more concrete answer.
Why not premeditated murder? What factors would the sentence depend on?
I am happy with abortion being criminalized. This will put providers out of business (yes, it's a big business).
In some states, the charge is similar to murder.
Map of US, feticide laws
Will it still be feticide if the pregnancy is not yet in the fetal stage? What if she's only 4 weeks pregnant?
Again, what state is she in? It would depend on the jurisdiction as it does with all criminal cases.
:think:So why is it that when a person hires a contract killer both are charged with murder?
Are you comparing an abortion to contract killing?