The term predestination is not correct as it does not convey the power found in the original term which is translated into English and gives predetermination.
I believe the original term... Chosen by Lot... translated into English is pretty straight forward! as is...
Act 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as
had been appointed to eternal life believed. :readthis:
Do you see any predetermination in Acts 13:48... :nono:
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof,
for correction, for
training in righteousness;
This verse was written, decades before the New testament was created... thus All OT scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness
Lets review...
NASB Pro 16:1 The plans of the heart belong to man, But the answer of the tongue is
from the LORD.
CEV Pro 16:1 We humans make plans, but the LORD has the final word.
NASB Pro 16:9 The mind of man plans his way, But the LORD directs his steps.
CEV Pro 16:9 We make our own plans, but the LORD decides where we will go.
NASB Pro 20:24
Man's steps are ordained by the LORD, How then can man understand his way?
Pro 20:24 The steps of a person
73 are ordained by
74 the LORD — so how can anyone
75
understand his own way?
Pro 20:24
73 tn Heb "the steps of a man"; but "man" is the noun גֶּבֶר (gever, in pause), indicating an important, powerful person. BDB 149-50 s.v. suggests it is used of men in their role of defending women and children; if that can be validated, then a translation of "man" would be appropriate here. But the line seems to have a wider, more general application. The "steps" represent (by implied comparison) the course of life (cf. NLT "the road we travel").
74 tn Heb "from the LORD"; NRSV "ordered by the Lord"; NIV "directed by the Lord."
sn To say that one's steps are ordained by the LORD means that one's course of actions, one's whole life, is divinely prepared and sovereignly superintended (e.g., Gen_50:26; Pro_3:6).
Ironically, man is not actually in control of his own steps.
75 tn The verse uses an independent nominative absolute to point up the contrast between the mortal and the immortal: "and man, how can he understand his way?" The verb in the sentence would then be classified as a potential imperfect; and the whole question rhetorical.
It is affirming that humans cannot understand very much at all about their lives.
NASB Jer 10:23 I know, O LORD, that a man's way is not in himself, Nor is it in a man who walks to direct his steps.
Net Jer 10:23 LORD, we know that people do not control their own destiny.
It is not in their power to determine what will happen to them.
CEV Jer 10:23 I know, LORD, that we humans are not in control of our own lives.
I warned you this topic freaks people out... they fail to see....
1Ti 4:9 The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance. 10 For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God,
who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe. 11 Command and teach these things.
Rom 11:32 For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all.
Just what does this mean?
Joh 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
1Jo 2:2 and
He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.
Propitiation
1. The act of appeasing wrath and conciliating the favor of an offended person; the act of making propitious.
2. In theology, the atonement or atoning sacrifice offered to God to assuage his wrath and render him propitious to sinners. Christ is the propitiation for the sins of men. Rom 3. 1 John
Predestination is about who will be in the 1000 year reign with our Lord and King! What? you think Jesus will reign forever? think again!!!
1Co 15:25
For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him,
then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Again... this topic is not cool for most... It freaks them out! They grasp at any thing they are told just to believe they have a say in salvation! The truth is we don't!
The truth is...
Belief is a GIFT - Phil 1:29 - "For you have been granted [
the gift] to grant as a favor for Christ's sake not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer in His behalf."
Faith is a GIFT - Eph 2:8-10 - "For it is by free grace (
God's unmerited favor) that you are saved (delivered from judgment and made partakers of Christ's salvation) through [
the gift of]
faith.
And this [salvation] is not of yourselves, but it is the gift of God; Not because of works [not the fulfillment of the Law's demands], lest any man should boast. [
It is not the result of what anyone can possibly do, so no one can pride himself in it or take glory to himself.]
For we are God's [own] handiwork (His workmanship), recreated in Christ Jesus, [born anew]
that we may do those good works which God predestined (planned beforehand) for us [taking paths which He prepared ahead of time], that we should walk in them [
living the good life which He prearranged and made ready for us to live].
My friend... Your faith and belief came to you from God... thus the true understanding of Jesus' teachings... NASB Joh 6:65
And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father."
Not all are chosen...
NASB Mat 22:14
"For many are called, but few are chosen."
CEV Mat 22:14
Many are invited, but only a few are chosen.
ESV Rom 11:7 What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking.
The elect obtained it,
but the rest were hardened, 8 as it is written,
"God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day."
Don't look at predestination as the salvation of the Soul... Look at it in terms of the 1000 year reign. Remember God is LOVE!
NASB Mar 4:11 And he said to them,
"To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables, so that indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand, lest they should turn and be forgiven."
Do you really think the God of Love did not want these people to see the truth and repent in Mark 4:11? Just so he could burn them in hell for eternity... We have no idea of Gods love and plan for the human race!
The traditions of men... confuses the truth of predestination for all of us seekers of the truth!
oly::sherlock:
Paul