Paul's gospel started late....

[Right Divider]

Every Christian is very familiar with Phil 4:13, but not so familiar with Phil 4:15

Phil 4:15 (AKJV/PCE)​

(4:15) Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.​

The "beginning of the gospel" that Paul preached was NOT during Christ's time on earth or anywhere in Acts 1-8.

Clearly a different gospel.

 

[Lon]

Starting with 'gospel' meaning 'good news' Jesus was full of good news (pl). It helps if one knows all the good news-es is about Him. This particular good news is good news for the whole world (gentiles).

 

[Right Divider]

Starting with 'gospel' meaning 'good news' Jesus was full of good news (pl). It helps if one knows all the good news-es is about Him. This particular good news is good news for the whole world (gentiles).

So... you're saying that there is more than one "good news" in the Bible?

 

[glorydaz]

Starting with 'gospel' meaning 'good news' Jesus was full of good news (pl). It helps if one knows all the good news-es is about Him. This particular good news is good news for the whole world (gentiles).

This is really good news, and often over looked, don’t you think?

Matthew 4:23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.​

 

[Idolater]

Every Christian is very familiar with Phil 4:13, but not so familiar with Phil 4:15

Phil 4:15 (AKJV/PCE)​

(4:15) Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.​

The "beginning of the gospel" that Paul preached was NOT during Christ's time on earth or anywhere in Acts 1-8.

Clearly a different gospel.

Isaiah
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Isaiah
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Yes, that is about Christ.

What does Isaiah 53 have to do with what RD said?

 

[Idolater]

Yes, that is about Christ.

What does Isaiah 53 have to do with what RD said?

Sounds like the Good News of the crucifixion. That's Paul's Gospel, no?

 

[JudgeRightly]

Sounds like the Good News of the crucifixion.

No.

That's Paul's Gospel, no?

Isaiah 53 is not Paul's gospel, no.

 

[Right Divider]

This is really good news, and often over looked, don’t you think?

Matthew 4:23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.​

This type of healing ceased shortly thereafter.
The gospel of the kingdom is not the gospel of the grace of God.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Sounds like the Good News of the crucifixion. That's Paul's Gospel, no?

No.



Isaiah 53 is not Paul's gospel, no.

To clarify:

Paul was given his gospel directly from Christ Himself.

His gospel did not come from the scriptures. It was, as Paul said, "kept secret since the world began."

Isaiah 53 is not "kept secret."

 

[Right Divider]

Isaiah
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

It's funny that you think that Paul is wrong (or stupid).

 

[glorydaz]

This type of healing ceased shortly thereafter.
The gospel of the kingdom is not the gospel of the grace of God.

That type of healing may have ceased, but the teaching and the preaching of the Gospel of the Kingdom didn’t.

 

[glorydaz]

Sounds like the Good News of the crucifixion. That's Paul's Gospel, no?

Without the cross there would be no Gospel, so you‘re certainly right there.

 

[Derf]

To clarify:

Paul was given his gospel directly from Christ Himself.

His gospel did not come from the scriptures. It was, as Paul said, "kept secret since the world began."

Isaiah 53 is not "kept secret."

It is, even today:

Isaiah 53 - The Forbidden Chapter

Our ministry, ONE FOR ISRAEL, is a movement of Jewish and Arab Israeli followers of Jesus with a commission to reach their country and the nations with the Gospel. We see our call to equip believers in Israel and around the world with the tools of ministry through our media outreach, and to...

www.oneforisrael.org

 

[JudgeRightly]

It is, even today:

Isaiah 53 - The Forbidden Chapter

Our ministry, ONE FOR ISRAEL, is a movement of Jewish and Arab Israeli followers of Jesus with a commission to reach their country and the nations with the Gospel. We see our call to equip believers in Israel and around the world with the tools of ministry through our media outreach, and to...

www.oneforisrael.org

Huh?

Last I checked, Isaiah 53 is written in the Bible.

The point I was making was that Paul's gospel was not recorded anywhere in scripture prior to His conversion on the road to Damascus, while Isaiah is part of Scripture, and has everything to do with the New Covenant, where "the death of the Testator" is required in order to bring the covenant into effect.

 

[Derf]

Huh?

Last I checked, Isaiah 53 is written in the Bible.

The point I was making was that Paul's gospel was not recorded anywhere in scripture prior to His conversion on the road to Damascus, while Isaiah is part of Scripture, and has everything to do with the New Covenant, where "the death of the Testator" is required in order to bring the covenant into effect.

Paul's gospel was preached in the Garden of Eden.
Genesis 3:15 KJV — And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

 

[Right Divider]

Paul's gospel was preached in the Garden of Eden.
Genesis 3:15 KJV — And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

That is NOT Paul's gospel.

 

[Idolater]

Without the cross there would be no Gospel, so you‘re certainly right there.

1st Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

"the Scripture" Isaiah 53. There's even the repeating 5 3. 15:3 and 53.

Isaiah 53 is clearly about Christ dying for our sins, 1st Corinthians 15:3 says "Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures". That's Isaiah 53. It's others, but it's Isaiah 53 anyway.

Which he calls "the gospel which I preached unto you" 1st Corinthians 15:1

(Speaking of 15:1, there are 151 Psalms in the Catholic Bible btw. Luther removed a Psalm, plus seven books of your Old Testament. Poof, disappeared, gone forever. He exercised that divine power, to decide on the table of contents in the Scripture. So you always have to remember if you're an Evangelical reading your Lutheran Bible with the Lutheran table of contents, that you have imbued Luther with this divine power, simply by using his table of contents. You recognize his power to do that, when you read his abbreviated Bible, with the altered table of contents—you approve it, you approbate it. That's divine power and you just give it to him for some reason. Just bear it in mind is all.)

 

[Derf]

That is NOT Paul's gospel.

Would you like to give us a synopsis of Paul's gospel so we can compare?

 

[Right Divider]

Would you like to give us a synopsis of Paul's gospel so we can compare?

Already have many times.