OT Law Or New Testament Law-Not Both
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To Squeaky.
I think, I hope, you believe Jesus is the Lord
So my question to you is,
who was telling Moses to write this?
Ye shall do My judgments, and keep Mine ordinances, to walk therein:
I am the LORD your God.
Ye shall therefore keep My statutes, and My judgments:
which if a man do, he shall live in them:
I am the LORD.
Leviticus 18:4-5
And to anybody else who is moved to answer, of course.
I think, I hope, you believe Jesus is the Lord
So my question to you is,
who was telling Moses to write this?
Ye shall do My judgments, and keep Mine ordinances, to walk therein:
I am the LORD your God.
Ye shall therefore keep My statutes, and My judgments:
which if a man do, he shall live in them:
I am the LORD.
Leviticus 18:4-5
And to anybody else who is moved to answer, of course.
I said
It appears you dont know the difference between LORD and Lord.
LORD GOD ALMIGHTY AND ALSO Lord JESUS CHRIST=LORD Lord
Ps 110:1
1 The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, till I make Your enemies Your footstool."
(Matt)
Matt 25:1-12
1 "Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.
2 "Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3 "Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them,
4 "but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 "But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept.
6 "And at midnight a cry was heard: 'Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!'
7 "Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps.
8 "And the foolish said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.'
9 "But the wise answered, saying, 'No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.'
10 "And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut.
11 "Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, 'Lord, Lord, open to us!'
12 "But he answered and said, 'Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.'
Luke 13:25-27
25 "When once the Master of the house has risen up and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and knock at the door, saying, 'Lord, Lord, open for us,' and He will answer and say to you, 'I do not know you, where you are from,'
26 "then you will begin to say, 'We ate and drank in Your presence, and You taught in our streets.'
27 "But He will say, 'I tell you I do not know you, where you are from. Depart from Me, all you workers of iniquity.'
Matt 7:21-23
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22 "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'
Luke 6:46
46 "But why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do the things which I say?
Matt 25:31-46
31 "When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory.
32 "All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats.
33 "And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 "Then the King will say to those on His right hand, 'Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 'for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in;
36 'I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.'
37 "Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink?
38 'When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You?
39 'Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?'
40 "And the King will answer and say to them, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.'
41 "Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 'for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink;
43 'I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.'
44 "Then they also will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?'
45 "Then He will answer them, saying, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.'
46 "And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
Luke 13:28
28 "There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, and yourselves thrust out.
Heb 10:10
10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Rom 14:9
9 For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living.
Rom 14:11
11 For it is written: "As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall confess to God."
Jude 1:4
4 For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Matt 11:27
27 "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
(NKJ)
XXXXX Lord is a title of spiritual authority over the earth. The LORD God held it alone until Jesus proved Himself to God the Father. Then God the Father gave the title of Lord to Jesus when Jesus received His Ministry. God is the title of spiritual authority over the universe which only God the Father holds. But even Jesus will hold that title at His second coming. God gave Jesus the title of Lord, not LORD. There is only one LORD, and there is only one Lord. And the Father is the only God.
[Rev 17:14
14 "These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those [who are] with Him [are] called, chosen, and faithful."
JESUS SAID THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD
[Jhn 17:1-3
1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
You know what helps with that LORD vs Lord thingy? Actually keeping the 3rd commandment...the one which tells them not to take the Name from Sinai to Jerusalem in vain...or for nothing...or naught...
And well they did just that...kept it to themselves...blasphemed it with misrepresentation and counterfeit intent...
Not once but TWICE when Paul was retelling his conversion story he told of his being knocked off his high horse and asking “who are you?” And the answer he got was NOT “Jesus” or “Iēsous” or the latin version of that...
Both times Paul was telling this story he spoke in Hebrew/Aramaic...so his answer was Yahushua or similar
Thing is God’s name Yah though replaced with LORD remains in other names...IsaYah...or JeremiYah or EliYah or HalleluYah...
And when does Yah save? With His son Yahushua as that is what it actually means Yah saves/is salvation...”Jesus” on the other hands MEANS NOTHING...
El i YAH = god is Yah
El i SHA = god is salvation
Add the last together and it’s Yahshua...interesting too that both these prophets defeated death and resurrected someone
This reveals the power of names...the importance of using them...
https://youtu.be/HUs8f-lphec
testimony to the fact it was always the OT pointing to HIM...ONE LAW for native and goyim alike...
HalleluYah...
The Irony of Squeaky bringing the OT into the NT EVERY TIME he says His name...
The only name that brings salvation...He came in His Father’s name...
But maybe Squeaky does NOT allow the God of the OT into the NT?
Don’t be an anti Semitic racist Squeaky...
respect His culture name and customs...
Especially since you are in His house...respect His house rules ok?...LOL...
I said
And yet your useing the Lords name in vain. By not being honest with a brother.
[Eph 4:25
[25] Therefore, putting away lying, "[Let] each one [of you] speak truth with his neighbor," for we are members of one another.
[Mat 7:6
[6] "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
Thank you, Squeaky.
But none of the scriptures you posted actually say what you are saying.
I confess, I do find it difficult to distinguish between the Father and the Son.
When Jesus comes, can you tell if it the Father or the Son you are standing before?
For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed Me:
for he wrote of Me.
John 5:47
Jesus saying He is the LORD who Moses wrote about.
and the word which ye hear is not Mine, but the Father's which sent Me.
John 14:24
Jesus saying He speaks the same word.
Verily, verily, I say unto you,
He that hears My word, and believes on Him that sent Me,
has everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation;
but is passed from death unto life.
John 5:24
Jesus saying we must believe in the Father who sent Him, as well as keep His words
Jesus cried and said,
He that believes on Me, believes not on Me,
but on Him that sent Me.
John 12:44
You gave your reasons why you distinguish between "the Lord" and "the LORD our God",
separating them into two different beings,
but even with those reasons,
I cannot see why to reject the word of the LORD our God, as you have done.
If there is a discontinuity between the word of the Lord and the word of the LORD,
I don't hear it.
A good example.
Jesus said:
Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
The LORD our God said:
All the commandments which I command thee this day shall ye observe to do,
that ye may live, and multiply, and go in and possess the land
which the LORD sware unto your fathers.
Deuteronomy 8:1
For almost everything Jesus said, I can find it in the LORD's words too.
And so the LORD helps me to understand our Lord Jesus' sayings.
Every man therefore
that has heard, and has learned of the Father, comes unto Me.
John 6:45
Praise the LORD.
But none of the scriptures you posted actually say what you are saying.
But I can recognize His voice.
I confess, I do find it difficult to distinguish between the Father and the Son.
When Jesus comes, can you tell if it the Father or the Son you are standing before?
For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed Me:
for he wrote of Me.
John 5:47
Jesus saying He is the LORD who Moses wrote about.
and the word which ye hear is not Mine, but the Father's which sent Me.
John 14:24
Jesus saying He speaks the same word.
Verily, verily, I say unto you,
He that hears My word, and believes on Him that sent Me,
has everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation;
but is passed from death unto life.
John 5:24
Jesus saying we must believe in the Father who sent Him, as well as keep His words
Jesus cried and said,
He that believes on Me, believes not on Me,
but on Him that sent Me.
John 12:44
You gave your reasons why you distinguish between "the Lord" and "the LORD our God",
separating them into two different beings,
but even with those reasons,
I cannot see why to reject the word of the LORD our God, as you have done.
If there is a discontinuity between the word of the Lord and the word of the LORD,
I don't hear it.
A good example.
Jesus said:
Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
The LORD our God said:
All the commandments which I command thee this day shall ye observe to do,
that ye may live, and multiply, and go in and possess the land
which the LORD sware unto your fathers.
Deuteronomy 8:1
For almost everything Jesus said, I can find it in the LORD's words too.
And so the LORD helps me to understand our Lord Jesus' sayings.
Every man therefore
that has heard, and has learned of the Father, comes unto Me.
John 6:45
Praise the LORD.
Abraham deceived Samson riddled David did faked...Spirit from heaven became a LYING SPIRIT
Even He fibbed saying He was not going up to Jerusalem to the feast but then did so...told parables and used metaphors that kept them guessing and wondering...kinda like you about me...definitely holds interest builds suspense by not getting a direct answer...
Telling you that not just your ex woman embarrass you your logic and reasoning should have tipped you off...those with ears let them hear...
I said
all you have to do is believe Jesus.
[Jhn 17:1-3
[1] Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
[2] "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. [3] "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
Thank you, Squeaky.
Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;
but he that does the will of My Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 7:21
Jesus said to hear His sayings, and do them.
Jesus said to also believe on Him that sent Him, and do His will.
Jesus said to believe Moses' writings, and the prophets.
So "all you have to do is believe Jesus"
becomes a bit more complicated than that,
when you get down to doing it.
Jesus has some pretty strange and hard to understand sayings.
Sayings that, for one reason or another, most everyone overlooks.
And "all you have to do is believe" becomes an excuse, an hollow gong.
Because, if you believe Jesus, He gives us lots to do.
Doesn't He?
Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;
but he that does the will of My Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 7:21
Jesus said to hear His sayings, and do them.
Jesus said to also believe on Him that sent Him, and do His will.
Jesus said to believe Moses' writings, and the prophets.
So "all you have to do is believe Jesus"
becomes a bit more complicated than that,
when you get down to doing it.
Jesus has some pretty strange and hard to understand sayings.
Sayings that, for one reason or another, most everyone overlooks.
And "all you have to do is believe" becomes an excuse, an hollow gong.
Because, if you believe Jesus, He gives us lots to do.
Doesn't He?
Indeed there is much work to do...happily there remains for His people a day of rest Heb 4:9 enter it as He did from His works...
That is the Will and Way of the Father...
made in His image is not just looking like but doing as He does...Reflecting Him is not just looking like...but doing as...
follow Me He said...just as...closely
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.
Romans 3:28 NKJV
Romans 3:28 NKJV
Therefore we conclude that Squeaky has invented his own gospel.
Yup taught it and demonstrated what it looks like while He lived...and then getting killed for changing their new laws BACK to the original...lol...He sealed it...and the first full day of that New Testament age was...
A SABBATH...
Seperate people from Yahushua? Hardly I am helping them FIND HIM...
I mean He aint at the cross anymore...He left that...He aint at the tomb neither...Nor is He at the temple...ANY TEMPLE MAN WOULD MAKE...He aint in the “Holy” land desert anymore either so it aint holy no more...
He is working all over teaching healing and well if you want to find Him I would recommend you walk into every city that preaches and teaches Moses on Sabbath and ask for believers...He will be there where two or three are gathered in His name...as He did...on sabbaths as according to His custom...
Oh and BTW once you find Him you will WANT to stay with Him and follow Him and do what He does...when He does it...
that is NOT separating people from Yahushua that is keeping them close to Him HIS WAY
WWJD? Do that Squeaky...you will find and stay with Him
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Squeaky thinks doing His good works is seperating people from the One that created them to do good works...
Squeaky says you won’t surely die if you don’t obey Him Who created Squeaky even...
Squeaky exalts himself as though he were Yah
I said
lololol Well you dont have any truth so now you just start making up lies. Your an idiot.
Lies? But you believe LIARS their LIES...like the jewish one which claimed Yahushua was taught to have changed the laws...and times...
Luke was clear that was FALSE WITNESS as it was NOT taught Yahushua changed the customs given by Moses...
well...by real disciples and apostles who obediently follow and copy Him...
Much of His Ways is to you layabout LAYodiceans...carnally minded desirous of earthly pleasures and entertainment...Milk and Milkshakes...goat milk no less lol