Only One Gospel?

jamie

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Jerry Shugart said:
If there is only one gospel what was being preached by the Twelve here?:

"Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God...And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where" (Lk.9:1-2,6).​
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Were they preaching the kingdom of God?

Were they preaching that Jesus of Nazareth was the Christ?
 
Zeke

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Jerry Shugart said:
Awaiting the return of the Lord Jesus' to the earth, as witnessed by His own words:

"And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand" (Lk.21:27-31).​
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So Chist in you is a myth then as is the kingdom being in you, you're disbelief is the problem not some exoteric future event concerning this worldly kingdom that is a mear shadow.
 
Zeke

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And that kingdom of God isn't of this world that is temporal abode for divine off spring. The mind is the city and place of both cities below and above one visible the other invisible and is built in silence.
 
Zeke

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I think Paul meant to add the grammer boast to 1Cor 13 as well. We all know God is a respector of first adam spelling and sentence structure.
 
Jerry Shugart

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jamie said:
Were they preaching the kingdom of God?
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Here is what the Twelve were sent to do by the Lord Jesus:

"And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick" (Lk.9:2).​

Then just a little later we see them preaching a gospel:

"And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where" (Lk.9:6).​

Since at that time the Twelve did not even know that the Lord Jesus was going to die (Lk.18:33-34) then it is certain that they were not preaching the same gospel which Paul preached which declared that Christ died for our sins.

That means that there were two different gospels preached.
 
Jerry Shugart

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Zeke said:
So Chist in you is a myth then as is the kingdom being in you, you're disbelief is the problem not some exoteric future event concerning this worldly kingdom that is a mear shadow.
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Why can't you even understand that the Lord Jesus spoke of a kingdom that is a future event and it awaits His return to the earth?
 
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Jerry Shugart said:
Why can't you even understand that the Lord Jesus spoke of a kingdom that is a future event and it awaits His return to the earth?
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Prob bc of the overwhelming evidence that it is at work right now since the resurrection was the enthronement. It appears quite clearly that the end of the world was to happen right after the destruction of Israel but God delayed. Cp I Cor 7 on whether to marry or go into business, and Lk 23's nursing babies who will see the destruction, possibly of the whole world, but at least Israel, in their normal lifespan.
 
Zeke

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Why can't you grasp Christs word were spirit concerning a spiritual kingdom that has always existed! The birth of Christ like isaac was within man not of flesh. Galatians 4 gives you the key yet you cling to roman myth.
 
jamie

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Jerry Shugart said:
Since at that time the Twelve did not even know that the Lord Jesus was going to die (Lk.18:33-34) then it is certain that they were not preaching the same gospel which Paul preached which declared that Christ died for our sins.

That means that there were two different gospels preached.
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Are you saying the Twelve preached the coming of the kingdom of God and Paul preached it wouldn't come?
 
Jerry Shugart

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jamie said:
Are you saying the Twelve preached the coming of the kingdom of God and Paul preached it wouldn't come?
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Why are you trying to change the subject?

Do you think that the gospel preached at Luke 9:6 was the same gospel which Paul spoke of at 1 Corinthians 15:1-2?
 
Jerry Shugart

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Zeke said:
Galatians 4 gives you the key yet you cling to roman myth.
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What the Lord Jesus said here is no roman myth:

"And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand" (Lk.21:27-31).​
 
jamie

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Jerry Shugart said:
Why are you trying to change the subject?

Do you think that the gospel preached at Luke 9:6 was the same gospel which Paul spoke of at 1 Corinthians 15:1-2?
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I think Paul preached the kingdom as did the Twelve. Why do you think differently?
 
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Jerry Shugart said:
Here is what the Twelve were sent to do by the Lord Jesus:

"And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick" (Lk.9:2).​

Then just a little later we see them preaching a gospel:

"And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where" (Lk.9:6).​

Since at that time the Twelve did not even know that the Lord Jesus was going to die (Lk.18:33-34) then it is certain that they were not preaching the same gospel which Paul preached which declared that Christ died for our sins.

That means that there were two different gospels preached.
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That was one and the same and belongs to the kingdom. You need to work through why the blow up happened at the Confession/Transfiguration. I don't see where you have. They were most zealot influenced who wanted an overthrow for a Davidic monarchy.

They did know he was going to die all along, but they blocked it out due to their zealot tendencies.

I've asked you 5 times to check this.
 
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