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Squeaky

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ONLY ONE GOD THE FATHER-ONLY ONE Lord JESUS CHRIST
THE FATHER IS GOD-JESUS IS Lord(Not LORD)
JESUS IS NOT GOD

II Jn 1:3
3 Grace, mercy, and peace will be with you from God the Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
John 17:3
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
1 Cor 8:5-7
5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords),
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
7 However, there is not in everyone that knowledge; for some, with consciousness of the idol, until now eat it as a thing offered to an idol; and their conscience, being weak, is defiled.
Acts 17:24-25
24 "God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands.
25 "Nor is He worshiped with men's hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things.
Eph 1:3
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,
John 4:23-24
23 "But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
24 "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
1 Pet 4:19
19 Therefore let those who suffer according to the will of God commit their souls to Him in doing good, as to a faithful Creator.
1 Cor 11:27
27 Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
Eph 4:4-6
4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling;
5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Eph 4:7
7 But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ's gift.
I Jn 2:4
4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
I Jn 2:3
3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
I Jn 3:19
19 And by this we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before Him.
I Jn 3:22-24
22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.
23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.
24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.
I Jn 4:2-3
2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
I Jn 4:12-15
12 No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us.
13 By this we know that we abide in Him, and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit.
14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world.
15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.
I Jn 5:20
20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.
I Jn 5:12-13
12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.
Col 1:15-16
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
Rom 1:20
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
1 Tim 1:17
17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, to God who alone is wise, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.
II Jn 1:8-11
8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
Rev 22:18-19
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Matt 11:27
27 "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
John 14:28
28 "You have heard Me say to you, 'I am going away and coming back to you.' If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, 'I am going to the Father,' for My Father is greater than I.
John 20:17
17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.'"
1 Cor 8:6-7
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
7 However, there is not in everyone that knowledge; for some, with consciousness of the idol, until now eat it as a thing offered to an idol; and their conscience, being weak, is defiled.
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xxx Jesus is very specific about revealing who God really is. And if you dont know who Jesus really is, how will you ever find out who God the Father really is? To confess means to agree fully. So to confess that Jesus came in the flesh, and that Jesus is the Son of God. One has to question those that say God came in the flesh, and Jesus is God. Because they do not agree fully that it was Jesus instead of God. Now God was manifested(made known) to us by Jesus that God was with Him. But Jesus also made known to us that God left Jesus on the cross to die alone. There is only One God the Father. Jesus was created by God the Father. Jesus was created a man, after Jesus proved Himself to God in obedience. God gave Jesus a ministry and a title of Lord over earth. Then after Jesus was resurrected God the Father gave Jesus a new title when Jesus returns at His second coming with the authority of a God. Because Jesus purchased us from the law of sin and death(old testament).

xxJesus said He was a son of man, and God was never a man, nor a son of man.

Num 23:19
19 "God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?
Matt 8:20
20 And Jesus said to him, "Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head."
Matt 9:6
6 "But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins"-- then He said to the paralytic, "Arise, take up your bed, and go to your house."
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JESUS IS Lord

1 Cor 12:3
3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.
Phil 2:11
11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
I Jn 4:3
3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
II Jn 1:7
7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
(NKJ)

xxxLord and God are the highest spiritual titles of authority. The Father held both titles in the old testament. In the old testament God held the title of LORD God. In the new testament God turned over the title of Lord(not LORD) to Jesus. God is the highest spiritual title of authority over the universe. Lord is the highest spiritual title of authority over the earth.


1 Cor 3:23
23 And you are Christ's, and Christ is God's.
(NKJ)


Eph 1:17
17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him,
(NKJ)

GO TO GOD THE FATHER IS THE CREATOR
 
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TrevorL

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Greetings Squeaky ,
ONLY ONE GOD THE FATHER-ONLY ONE Lord JESUS CHRIST
THE FATHER IS GOD-JESUS IS Lord(Not LORD)
JESUS IS NOT GOD
Matt 11:27 "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.

God gave Jesus a ministry and a title of Lord over earth. Then after Jesus was resurrected God the Father gave Jesus a new title as a God over heaven and earth. Because Jesus purchased us from the law of sin and death(old testament).
I agree with most of what you have posted, but a few minor details seem obscure. I suggest that the title “a God” is not appropriate. Jesus is called “God” because he represents the one true God, the Father. He is not a separate “God”.
Lord and God are the highest spiritual titles of authority. The Father held both titles in the old testament. In the old testament God held the title of LORD God. In the new testament God turned over the title of Lord(not LORD) to Jesus. God is the highest spiritual title of authority over the universe. Lord is the highest spiritual title of authority over the earth.
You quoted from Matthew 11:27, but have you noticed that Jesus addresses His Father in verse 25 as “Lord”. Yes, Jesus has been given the role and status of “Lord”, but this does not supersede the status of God the Father, LORD in the OT, but also Lord of heaven and earth:
Matthew 11:25 (KJV): At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

Kind regards
Trevor
 

TrevorL

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Greetings “God's Truth”
How many King of kings are there?
How many Lord of lords?
Please answer.
It is not a matter of counting, but a realisation of the role and status of Jesus after his exaltation to the right hand of God the Father. The following attributes that title to our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God. God the Father is supreme over all.
Revelation 19:11-16 (KJV): 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Kind regards
Trevor
 

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Greetings “God's Truth” It is not a matter of counting, but a realisation of the role and status of Jesus after his exaltation to the right hand of God the Father. The following attributes that title to our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God. God the Father is supreme over all.
Revelation 19:11-16 (KJV): 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Kind regards
Trevor

Trevor, the reason I ask how many King of kings are there is because people fail to see that Jesus is God the Father.

God the Father is called the King of kings.

God the Father is called the First and the Last.

Now understand that Jesus is called those names.

Since the Bible says God the Father is the King of kings, and the Bible says Jesus is---that is proof they are the one and the same.

There are not two King of kings. There are not two First and Last.

Do you understand what I am saying?
 

the589

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You will figure it out one day

Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

John 3:35
The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

John 5:22
For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:



Matthew 11:27
John 8:19
John 14:10
John 16:28
John 20:17
2 Corinthians 1:3
Ephesians 4:6
 

God's Truth

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You will figure it out one day

Matthew 28:18
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

John 3:35
The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

John 5:22
For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:



Matthew 11:27
John 8:19
John 14:10
John 16:28
John 20:17
2 Corinthians 1:3
Ephesians 4:6

I already have it figured out.

Now would you like to tell me how many King of kings there are?
 

the589

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I already have it figured out.

Now would you like to tell me how many King of kings there are?

For me it is the best to say Jesus is the son of G-d, the prophesized maschiach

Dont put to much emphasis on king of kings. Even Nebuchadrezzar was called a king of kings in ezekial (Ezekiel 26:7)
 

God's Truth

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For me it is the best to say Jesus is the son of G-d, the prophesized maschiach

Dont put to much emphasis on king of kings. Even Nebuchadrezzar was called a king of kings in ezekial (Ezekiel 26:7)

Nebuchadnezzar is not sitting on the throne in heaven.
 

Squeaky

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Greetings Squeaky , I agree with most of what you have posted, but a few minor details seem obscure. I suggest that the title “a God” is not appropriate. Jesus is called “God” because he represents the one true God, the Father. He is not a separate “God”.
You quoted from Matthew 11:27, but have you noticed that Jesus addresses His Father in verse 25 as “Lord”. Yes, Jesus has been given the role and status of “Lord”, but this does not supersede the status of God the Father, LORD in the OT, but also Lord of heaven and earth:
Matthew 11:25 (KJV): At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

Kind regards
Trevor

I said
Jesus is never called God. Jesus is called Lord(Not LORD). Jesus Himself said the Father is the ONLY true God. Even Paul said the Father is the only God for us.

John 17:1-3

1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
(NKJ)

John 20:17
17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.'"
(NKJ)

1 Cor 8:6
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
(NKJ)
 

Squeaky

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Trevor, the reason I ask how many King of kings are there is because people fail to see that Jesus is God the Father.

God the Father is called the King of kings.

God the Father is called the First and the Last.

Now understand that Jesus is called those names.

Since the Bible says God the Father is the King of kings, and the Bible says Jesus is---that is proof they are the one and the same.

There are not two King of kings. There are not two First and Last.

Do you understand what I am saying?

I said
Well we will have to agree to disagree. Jesus is not God. Jesus said the Father is the ONLY true God.

John 17:1-3

1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
(NKJ)

John 20:17
17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.'"
(NKJ)

1 Cor 8:6
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
(NKJ)
 

TrevorL

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Greetings again “God's Truth” and Squeaky,
Trevor, the reason I ask how many King of kings are there is because people fail to see that Jesus is God the Father.
Do you understand what I am saying?
I can understand what you are claiming, but find no reference in Scriptures to teach that Jesus is God the Father. Logic based on A=C and B=C, thus A=B is very vulnerable to wrong conclusions.
I said: Jesus is never called God. Jesus is called Lord(Not LORD). Jesus Himself said the Father is the ONLY true God. Even Paul said the Father is the only God for us.
Perhaps I was being a bit pedantic, but you did say Jesus was “a God”, and I disagree with that type of expression. Thomas called Jesus “my God” and the Judges and Angels are called God or gods (Elohim). But in general I agree with your position, that there is only one God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Kind regards
Trevor
 

Squeaky

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Greetings again “God's Truth” and Squeaky, I can understand what you are claiming, but find no reference in Scriptures to teach that Jesus is God the Father. Logic based on A=C and B=C, thus A=B is very vulnerable to wrong conclusions.
Perhaps I was being a bit pedantic, but you did say Jesus was “a God”, and I disagree with that type of expression. Thomas called Jesus “my God” and the Judges and Angels are called God or gods (Elohim). But in general I agree with your position, that there is only one God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Kind regards
Trevor

I said
I never said Jesus was a God.
 

God's Truth

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Well we will have to agree to disagree. Jesus is not God. Jesus said the Father is the ONLY true God.

John 17:1-3

1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
(NKJ)

John 20:17
17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.'"
(NKJ)

1 Cor 8:6
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
(NKJ)

There is only one Spirit.

God the Father is Spirit. Jesus is Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is Spirit.

They are all one and the same.

"…who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped" (Philippians 2:7).

The Spirit is the form of God.
 

God's Truth

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Greetings again “God's Truth” and Squeaky, I can understand what you are claiming, but find no reference in Scriptures to teach that Jesus is God the Father. Logic based on A=C and B=C, thus A=B is very vulnerable to wrong conclusions.

Kind regards
Trevor

I prove my beliefs with scripture.

Tell me how the Father and Son are different.

God the Father came as a Son in the flesh.

Humans call that which comes from them 'son' and 'daughter'.

What would you have God the Father call Himself in the flesh as a Man?
 

the589

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God is Spirit, invisible. Jesus is God the Father with a body.

G-d is spirit. (Genesis 1:2). But Jesus comes from the Father. You can also say Jesus is in the Father or you can say the Father (was)is in Jesus. If i say it any different it means i speak a different gospel
 

God's Truth

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G-d is spirit. (Genesis 1:2). But Jesus comes from the Father. You can also say Jesus is in the Father or you can say the Father (was)is in Jesus. If i say it any different it means i speak a different gospel

The Spirit of God/the Holy Spirit comes from God the Father.

Jesus comes from the Father.

There is only one divine Spirit, and Jesus' Spirit is that Spirit.
 
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