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Obeying Jesus' teachings or commands is requirement for salvation.
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You dont know what arminianism believes apparantly. While there might be some who teach that, the vast majority certainly do believe that most men end up in hell. Free will doesnt mean all are saved from hell by a longshot.
beloved57
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All that come and believe in Him !
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You so judged yourself as not saved.
Matthew 7:2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you
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The scriptures does not say Jesus saves us while we are unrepentant.
That scripture is about the Gentiles who were uncircumcised enemies.
Colossians 1:21 Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior.
Reconciled while enemies is about the GENTILES not having to become a Jew first and get CIRCUMCISED.
Colossians 2:13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins,
Mocking You
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So Romans 5 is not in your Bible?
6 For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die.
8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
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That scripture does not say we don't have have to repent to be saved!
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John the baptizer prepared the way for Jesus. Those who would come to Jesus had first to repent of their sins.
We still have to repent to prepare the way for Jesus into our hearts.
We have to first repent of our sins.
Acts 20:21 I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.
Acts 26:20 First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and to the Gentiles also, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds.
Acts 2:38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach this message: “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near.”
Matthew 11:21 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! If the miracles done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
If Jesus saves people first then they repent---then why is Jesus rebuking Chorazin and Bethsaida?
You are a Calvinist and do not know it.
Matthew 12:41 The people of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented when Jonah preached to them—and now, something greater than Jonah is here!
Mark 4:12 so that although they look they may look but not see, and although they hear they may hear but not understand, so they may not repent and be forgiven.”
Acts 3:19 Therefore repent and turn back so that your sins may be wiped out,
Did you read Acts 3:19? If they are already saved then why are their sins not already wiped out?
Acts 17:30 Therefore, although God has overlooked such times of ignorance, he now commands all people everywhere to repent,
We still have to repent to prepare the way for Jesus into our hearts.
We have to first repent of our sins.
Acts 20:21 I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.
Acts 26:20 First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and to the Gentiles also, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds.
Acts 2:38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach this message: “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near.”
Matthew 11:21 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! If the miracles done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
If Jesus saves people first then they repent---then why is Jesus rebuking Chorazin and Bethsaida?
You are a Calvinist and do not know it.
Matthew 12:41 The people of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented when Jonah preached to them—and now, something greater than Jonah is here!
Mark 4:12 so that although they look they may look but not see, and although they hear they may hear but not understand, so they may not repent and be forgiven.”
Acts 3:19 Therefore repent and turn back so that your sins may be wiped out,
Did you read Acts 3:19? If they are already saved then why are their sins not already wiped out?
Acts 17:30 Therefore, although God has overlooked such times of ignorance, he now commands all people everywhere to repent,
beloved57
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You don't believe in the same Jesus of Rom 5:10 ,they who He died for are reconciled saved from their sins while they are enemies, unrepentant!
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No one is reconciled to God through Jesus until they confess and repent of their sins.
Why else do you think Paul urges people to be reconciled to God?
2 Corinthians 5:20 We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ's behalf: Be reconciled to God.
Do you want to explain how you are already reconciled to God and yet Paul is imploring people to be?
beloved57
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You don't believe in the same Christ as I do, he made me Righteous while I was a enemy, Rom 5:19 !
That is not what the verse says. It says those who trust in him are made righteous.
heir
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Galatians 2:20 KJV
heir
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I am a partaker by the gospel!
Ephesians 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
beloved57
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No it doesn't, it says many are made righteous by the obedience of one!
heir
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:up: and keep going!
Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
beloved57
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But you don't believe the Gospel!
Heir is a sister in Christ. You add nothing to this forum.
heir
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2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
The work was done whether one believes it or not.
heir
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hush, :troll: