New poll finds California voters resoundingly oppose cash reparations for slavery

[Jasmine]

Am I mistaken, or is this a Christian website? That's pretty rude. Do you go into Mosques and mock Allah too?

The interesting thing is that every brilliant man in history, men of science, literature, etc, have all been men of faith. For you to call faith puerile is to mock those who are in fact far, far above you. That takes a lot of nerve, and no small amount of stupidity I might add.

Well, they'd be far, far above you also . . . . . . .

It is my considered opinion that this man is a professional agitator/bot for the Left. It is curious that the Forum has allowed him to remain a member so long. Looking back through his past there are several notable facts:

• He is a non-Christian in a Christian forum promoting anti-Christian ideals for many years, which is not normal, unless he is a pro.
• He is a Leftist in a mostly conservative forum promoting Leftwing extremism for many years, which is not normal, unless he is a pro.
• In the quoted post he insults me simply for making a perfectly accurate post. I noted that this is a Christian website and it is rude to belittle the official faith of a forum that allows a person to post here. Is this not true? I was insulted for that for no reason.
• This thread is about California voters resoundingly opposing cash reparations for slavery. A quick review of his posts show him misdirecting and derailing and insulting a every turn. This is a classic Saul Alinsky tactic, to smear and belittle your opponents in order to obfuscate the original message. This is what professional Leftist agitators do.

In a word, this man promotes evil, and he does so by defending those who promote evil and attacking those who promote good.

Well, they'd be far, far above you also as they wouldn't somehow read anything into my posts that call faith itself puerile or anything akin as that wasn't even implied, let alone stated.

It looks to me like everybody in this thread is saying you are wrong, everybody. In this case that is because you ARE wrong. You have posted nothing but falsehoods and fake news in this entire thread.

Now, explain to us all why California's tax payers should pay reparations when California was never a slave state, when white people freed the slaves, and when back in the 1800's 99% of whites never even owned a slave. And see if you can use facts instead of your usual snake oil lies.

 

[Jasmine]

No, I'd call Trump a narcissist cos that's what he is . . .

As are you it would seem.

 

[JudgeRightly]

It is curious that the Forum has allowed him to remain a member so long.

TOL allows opposing views from members.

There are many dissenting voices on TOL who have been debating us and fellowshipping with us for years, but those voices understand whose house party they are at and are respectful of that.

So long as they abide by the rules, and recognize that this is a Christian forum, and is biased towards Christian views, they will continue to be allowed to post here.

 

[Arthur Brain]

It is my considered opinion that this man is a professional agitator/bot for the Left. It is curious that the Forum has allowed him to remain a member so long. Looking back through his past there are several notable facts:

• He is a non-Christian in a Christian forum promoting anti-Christian ideals for many years, which is not normal, unless he is a pro.
• He is a Leftist in a mostly conservative forum promoting Leftwing extremism for many years, which is not normal, unless he is a pro.
• In the quoted post he insults me simply for making a perfectly accurate post. I noted that this is a Christian website and it is rude to belittle the official faith of a forum that allows a person to post here. Is this not true? I was insulted for that for no reason.
• This thread is about California voters resoundingly opposing cash reparations for slavery. A quick review of his posts show him misdirecting and derailing and insulting a every turn. This is a classic Saul Alinsky tactic, to smear and belittle your opponents in order to obfuscate the original message. This is what professional Leftist agitators do.

In a word, this man promotes evil, and he does so by defending those who promote evil and attacking those who promote good.




It looks to me like everybody in this thread is saying you are wrong, everybody. In this case that is because you ARE wrong. You have posted nothing but falsehoods and fake news in this entire thread.

Now, explain to us all why California's tax payers should pay reparations when California was never a slave state, when white people freed the slaves, and when back in the 1800's 99% of whites never even owned a slave. And see if you can use facts instead of your usual snake oil lies.

If you had a *considered opinion* then it wouldn't be one that consisted of such ludicrous hyperbole and unsupportable bunk. "Professional agitator"?! That's the kind of unhinged accusation that well and truly lands you in the utter wingnut camp.

I'm center left and have never promoted any sort of extremism or anti Christian ideals through seventeen years of tenure here.

You didn't make an accurate post at all. You (again) accused me of something I hadn't actually done or do. There was no belittling of the Christian faith going on whatsoever with my response to Gary K.

The smearing and belittling attempts are rather more closer to your own home than mine "Jasmine".

I could really care less about *everyone's* opinions or your confirmation bias where it comes to what is credible and fake news.

Where it comes to California then I can't say I'm in complete agreement with proposals but reparation is also understandable. It's not, to use a turn of phrase, "black and white".

California faces backlash as it weighs historic reparations for Black residents

The state has become the focus of the nation’s divisive reparations conversation as it advances its reparations efforts

www.theguardian.com

 

[Arthur Brain]

As are you it would seem.

Well, to some degree we all have an ego but narcissist? Nah.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Anyone can redefine terminology where it comes to politics to suit their own biases JR but that's all it is,

Irony meter's going off the charts, here!

it certainly isn't fact.

Yes, your position is not factual.

Bob's chart had no bearing in reality

Saying it doesn't make it so.

and was laughable in that regard.

That's just your subjective opinion.

I could concoct something similar that would be equally laughable.

How about one that's better?

And I don't mean just using someone else's work. I mean, come up with your own chart that beats all of them, including Bob's.

You won't.

You cannot.

Nazism and neo Nazism is far right wing JR.

Repeating this claim will never make it come true, Arty.

This is fact and the likes of you and RD can claim they are/were left wing all you like, it won't alter reality,

Because it IS reality.

something which you yourself declare is unhealthy. So accept it.

Yes, I accept that nazism and neo-nazism being far left is reality. That's what puts me on the right, and not on the left.

God (who is right, and on the right) said that all humanity is one blood. Racism is against that, and is therefore wrong, and on the left.

That is what Bob's chart is based on, which is why you cannot come up with anything better.

 

[Gary K]

Irony meter's going off the charts, here!



Yes, your position is not factual.



Saying it doesn't make it so.



That's just your subjective opinion.



How about one that's better?

And I don't mean just using someone else's work. I mean, come up with your own chart that beats all of them, including Bob's.

You won't.

You cannot.



Repeating this claim will never make it come true, Arty.



Because it IS reality.



Yes, I accept that nazism and neo-nazism being far left is reality. That's what puts me on the right, and not on the left.

God (who is right, and on the right) said that all humanity is one blood. Racism is against that, and is therefore wrong, and on the left.

That is what Bob's chart is based on, which is why you cannot come up with anything better.

Where do you get the idea God is on the right side of the political spectrum? There are no corrupt conservatives? God doesn't take sides in politics. We either side with Him or we don't. He doesn't join sides with us. The nation of Israel is a prime example of this.

The Pharisees were the political conservatives of their day and they murdered Jesus.

 

[Jasmine]

"Nazism and neo Nazism is far right wing JR."

Nonsense. They are both One Party rule, dictatorial, authoritarian, and therefore they are both the same, on the Left, and the democrat aspires to the same.

Democrats already murder people by the truckloads by abortion, they were the party of slavery and fought a war to keep slavery legal, they rounded up Japanese into camps (FDR = democrat), and they are open socialists. Does the name Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics ring a bell? How about National SOCIALIST German Workers Party?

Liars like Arthur Brain push the same old lie that fascism is of the right, because he cannot deal with the fact that Communsim, Marxism, and Fascism are all of the Left and are all basically the same thing, and his beloved democrat party is Marxist, which is the same as saying it is Fascist.

 

[Jasmine]

Where do you get the idea God is on the right side of the political spectrum? . . . .

Of all his posts that is is one blatant error. We are talking human political spectrums. He is creating a sort of religious spectrum where God is on the right and all other things are on the Left. Sort of weird, but its all good.

My original chart was correct:

 

[ok doser]

... his beloved democrat party ...

FYI - he's not american

 

[Gary K]

Of all his posts that is is one blatant error. We are talking human political spectrums. He is creating a sort of religious spectrum where God is on the right and all other things are on the Left. Sort of weird, but its all good.

My original chart was correct:

Your chart is the same as Glenn Beck created when he was at Fox.

 

[Gary K]

FYI - he's not american

I'd say he's probably right when he says he's center left in the UK. He's not necessarily honest about the rest of it as he has never answered some of my questions to him except by evasion.

 

[Jasmine]

FYI - he's not american

Really! A buttinski? Wow.

I'd say he's probably right when he says he's center left in the UK. He's not necessarily honest about the rest of it as he has never answered some of my questions to him except by evasion.

The British are so off the charts to the Left that its hard to make any real comparison.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Irony meter's going off the charts, here!



Yes, your position is not factual.



Saying it doesn't make it so.



That's just your subjective opinion.



How about one that's better?

And I don't mean just using someone else's work. I mean, come up with your own chart that beats all of them, including Bob's.

You won't.

You cannot.



Repeating this claim will never make it come true, Arty.



Because it IS reality.



Yes, I accept that nazism and neo-nazism being far left is reality. That's what puts me on the right, and not on the left.

God (who is right, and on the right) said that all humanity is one blood. Racism is against that, and is therefore wrong, and on the left.

That is what Bob's chart is based on, which is why you cannot come up with anything better.

I'm not real interested in concocting some pointless chart as it's an exercise in futility although I could hardly make one any worse. The political spectrum as it is is fine and that includes nuances also.

Repeating a fact will remain true no matter how many times it's stated or not JR. Nazism/Neo Nazism is far right. That's just the way it is. I get that you don't like it but eh, tough. The Neo Nazi movement itself identifies as far right and it could hardly be anything else given what it promotes. Deal with it or don't but your protestations mean squat effectively.

 

[Arthur Brain]

"Nazism and neo Nazism is far right wing JR."

Nonsense. They are both One Party rule, dictatorial, authoritarian, and therefore they are both the same, on the Left, and the democrat aspires to the same.

Democrats already murder people by the truckloads by abortion, they were the party of slavery and fought a war to keep slavery legal, they rounded up Japanese into camps (FDR = democrat), and they are open socialists. Does the name Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics ring a bell? How about National SOCIALIST German Workers Party?

Liars like Arthur Brain push the same old lie that fascism is of the right, because he cannot deal with the fact that Communsim, Marxism, and Fascism are all of the Left and are all basically the same thing, and his beloved democrat party is Marxist, which is the same as saying it is Fascist.

Well, I don't have a 'beloved' party as I'm rather more savvy and cynical where it comes to politics in general but denying that Nazism/Neo Nazism is far right is patently silly.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Really! A buttinski? Wow.




The British are so off the charts to the Left that its hard to make any real comparison.

Almost funny! The biggest safeguarding threats to the young and vulnerable that are monitored where I live and work emanate from far right contingents. That's not hyperbole either.

 

[Arthur Brain]

I'd say he's probably right when he says he's center left in the UK. He's not necessarily honest about the rest of it as he has never answered some of my questions to him except by evasion.

What exactly have I evaded?

 

[Right Divider]

Well, I don't have a 'beloved' party as I'm rather more savvy and cynical where it comes to politics in general but denying that Nazism/Neo Nazism is far right is patently silly.

More savvy... That's rich.

 

[Arthur Brain]

More savvy... That's rich.

Well, that was boring...

 

[Right Divider]

Well, that was boring...

Well, that was even more boring.