Muslims Warn NJ School Board: 'We're Going to Be the Majority Soon'

[Angel4Truth]

Muslims Warn NJ School Board: 'We're Going to Be the Majority Soon'

Things got heated at a Board of Education meeting last week in Jersey City after officials decided not to close schools for the Muslim holiday Eid al-Adha.

Despite a number of Muslims showing up to the meeting to advocate that the school changes its schedule, officials denied their pleas, arguing that doing so on such short notice would cause “undue hardship” for the upwards of 10,000 parents who may not have a place to put their children for the day.

Some Muslims were so angry over the decision that one official called on security to “take charge” of the situation. According to video footage, at least one person was seen being escorted from the meeting.

“We feel alienated from the Board of Education, we feel alienated from this system,” Omar Abouelkhair told WNBC-TV.

But it's not as though the school board was totally unaccommodating--Muslim students would still be allowed to take the day off as an excused religious absence. It's seems that wasn't enough for these students and parents, however.

The uproar that took place at the local Board of Education meeting comes as a new report from the Center for Immigration Studies shows that based on census data, Muslims are the fastest growing bloc of immigrants in America.

4 Stages of Islamic Conquest

 

[Sitamun]

1. I agree with the school board that last minute notice on the holiday would not be good, and stand with them on that.

2. I do not agree with any untoward behavior.

3. I can understand how the Muslim parents feel. It can be very hard when most Americans don't even KNOW it's a holy day, let alone let you celebrate it without complaining. (Yes, bee in my bonnet, my husbands employer fired him for taking the day off. Just annoyed about it is all)

4. Perhaps the school board can look to adding it as a day off in the next school year, that way non muslim parents have fair warning, and muslim children can celebrate with their families.

 

[quip]

Play nice children. :the_wave:

 

[Angel4Truth]

1. I agree with the school board that last minute notice on the holiday would not be good, and stand with them on that.

2. I do not agree with any untoward behavior.

3. I can understand how the Muslim parents feel. It can be very hard when most Americans don't even KNOW it's a holy day, let alone let you celebrate it without complaining. (Yes, bee in my bonnet, my husbands employer fired him for taking the day off. Just annoyed about it is all)

4. Perhaps the school board can look to adding it as a day off in the next school year, that way non muslim parents have fair warning, and muslim children can celebrate with their families.

Why do they need to do that, when muslims are already excused from school during their holidays?

How about jewish holidays, should the school close for them also?

 

[Quetzal]

Why do they need to do that, when muslims are already excused from school during their holidays?

How about jewish holidays, should the school close for them also?

When I was in college a few years back, they were called "breaks", not holidays to help avoid this very thing from happening. "Fall break" "Winter break" "Spring break", etc.

I would like to point out (and this is for any holidays related to faith), there is nothing stopping the parents from sending in a note "Little Kimmy will not be in class today because we are spending our holiday together as a family." Done.

 

[Sitamun]

Why do they need to do that, when muslims are already excused from school during their holidays?

How about jewish holidays, should the school close for them also?

They are excused, but they still miss what happened in class. I am not all that well versed in Jewish holidays, but the ones I do know take place after sundown, hence no conflict. Would you be okay with having to call your child out on christmas? I'd throw Easter in but it's always on a Sunday. Muslim children are already going to school on their "day of rest" already. It's two days, are you really that scared of two days?

 

[Angel4Truth]

They are excused, but they still miss what happened in class. I am not all that well versed in Jewish holidays, but the ones I do know take place after sundown, hence no conflict.

Sundown till the following Sundown, that includes the school day, and see, you just said the school should close for muslim holidays so others know about them and you admit you dont know the jewish ones, so shouldnt the school close for them also? So you can know their holidays?

Would you be okay with having to call your child out on christmas? I'd throw Easter in but it's always on a Sunday. Muslim children are already going to school on their "day of rest" already.

yes, if it werent already a federal holiday i would take them out. As far as your kids there on their "day of rest" you do know how to homeschool, right?

It's two days, are you really that scared of two days?

Lame emotional quibble that has nothing to do with the point, and you still havent answered what i asked, should the school be closed for jewish holidays, yes or no, its an easy question.

 

[Quetzal]

They are excused, but they still miss what happened in class. I am not all that well versed in Jewish holidays, but the ones I do know take place after sundown, hence no conflict. Would you be okay with having to call your child out on christmas? I'd throw Easter in but it's always on a Sunday. Muslim children are already going to school on their "day of rest" already. It's two days, are you really that scared of two days?

You do need to be careful. If you make an exception for one, specific religious holiday it will open you up to other problems. Then you do have to open up to the idea of being closed on any/all religious holidays, regardless. Where do you draw the line?

 

[Nick M]

I already told you the solution to those barbarians.

 

[Quetzal]

I already told you the solution to those barbarians.

I must have missed it, what is it?

 

[Sitamun]

Sundown till the following Sundown, that includes the school day, and see, you just said the school should close for muslim holidays so others know about them and you admit you dont know the jewish ones, so shouldnt the school close for them also? So you can know their holidays?




yes, if it werent already a federal holiday i would take them out. As far as your kids there on their "day of rest" you do know how to homeschool, right?



Lame emotional quibble that has nothing to do with the point, and you still havent answered what i asked, should the school be closed for jewish holidays, yes or no, its an easy question.

YES, school's should close on jewish holidays. I also think school should be an all year thing. We no longer need the three month summer break. I'm not complaining about Muslim children having to go to school on Friday, I'm pointing out that I have never seen Muslim's in this country complain about it, that is all. If it's fair for one religion, it's fair for all. Otherwise school on Christmas and you can call them out, but don't complain about it!

 

[bybee]

They are excused, but they still miss what happened in class. I am not all that well versed in Jewish holidays, but the ones I do know take place after sundown, hence no conflict. Would you be okay with having to call your child out on christmas? I'd throw Easter in but it's always on a Sunday. Muslim children are already going to school on their "day of rest" already. It's two days, are you really that scared of two days?

That works two ways. Are the Muslims really that afraid of two days?
It sounds like an attempt at manipulation.

 

[Angel4Truth]

YES, school's should close on jewish holidays. I also think school should be an all year thing. We no longer need the three month summer break. I'm not complaining about Muslim children having to go to school on Friday, I'm pointing out that I have never seen Muslim's in this country complain about it, that is all. If it's fair for one religion, it's fair for all. Otherwise school on Christmas and you can call them out, but don't complain about it!

School would be closed most of the time, if what you wanted happened, there are tons of religions.

I take it you do not believe in separation of church and state.

 

[Angel4Truth]

That works two ways. Are the Muslims really that afraid of two days?
It sounds like an attempt at manipulation.

Bingo.

 

[Sitamun]

School would be closed most of the time, if what you wanted happened, there are tons of religions.

I take it you do not believe in separation of church and state.

Then Christmas shouldn't be a federal holiday.

Each school district can decide for themselves, given the demographics of the area as to which holidays to "honor" or not. Simple. How is this a hard idea to grasp. Year round school, certain number of days, each district decides where breaks should/would be.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Then Christmas shouldn't be a federal holiday.

Complain to those in congress who established it as a federal holiday to celebrate the birth of Christ, you do know Christ right, He is listed as a prophet in your hubbys holy book.

Each school district can decide for themselves, given the demographics of the area as to which holidays to "honor" or not. Simple. How is this a hard idea to grasp. Year round school, certain number of days, each district decides where breaks should/would be.

They cant unless they offer the same thing to all religions. Where would that end, and how do you not see a problem with that?

They cant give it to muslims unless they also give it to jews, etc..

 

[Quetzal]

Then Christmas shouldn't be a federal holiday.

This is an interesting topic that can be a thread to itself. It would look forward to that chat, myself.

Each school district can decide for themselves, given the demographics of the area as to which holidays to "honor" or not. Simple. How is this a hard idea to grasp. Year round school, certain number of days, each district decides where breaks should/would be.

Isn't that what this district did?

 

[Sitamun]

This is an interesting topic that can be a thread to itself. It would look forward to that chat, myself.


Isn't that what this district did?

Yes it did. Muslims were asking for THIS year or last thursday. That is a bit late. I completely agree that it was too late to just call the day district wide, but next year isn't out of the question. If districts decide that there isn't a very large population for WHICHEVER religion, then perhaps school on those days. I'm not saying all should or shouldn't.

My response to christmas no longer being a federal holiday is in response to A4T's snide separation of church and state comment. A4T do not treat me as a child, I show respect to everyone here, even RC or TSF or Coulter4Pres (whichever). I respectfully ask that you treat me as the adult of at least some knowledge that I think people know I am.

Now, A4T if there is a separation of church and state like you said, then why is Christmas (A Christian Holy Day) a federal holiday? Are there other religious holy days listed as federal holidays? Yes, I am well aware that lines can blur and it is so easy for that to happen when one religion has a majority hold for so long in a country. I am not mad that Christmas is a federal holiday or that schools are closed etc. I'm just suggesting that maybe MAYBE, by looking at the changing demographics of an area and if a large enough "percentage" warrants a school closing so be it.

 

[Quetzal]

Yes it did. Muslims were asking for THIS year or last thursday. That is a bit late. I completely agree that it was too late to just call the day district wide, but next year isn't out of the question. If districts decide that there isn't a very large population for WHICHEVER religion, then perhaps school on those days. I'm not saying all should or shouldn't.

Gotcha :up:

 

[Angel4Truth]

A4T do not treat me as a child, I show respect to everyone here, even RC or TSF or Coulter4Pres (whichever). I respectfully ask that you treat me as the adult of at least some knowledge that I think people know I am.

Like this?

It's two days, are you really that scared of two days?

That doesnt look very respectful to me. :think: