Man Manhandled of United Airlines Flight

Angel4Truth

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Same reason hotels do it. They assume x guests or passengers will cancel or not show up. They want to fill the plane without a single empty seat. When hotels do it, they usually pay for the guest to stay somewhere comparable. They roll the dice on x not arriving and sometimes lose.

I agree it really messes with people's plans but usually the person bumped comes out way ahead. Instead of getting physical with this poor guy they should have done what K suggested, make an offer someone won't refuse who doesn't 'gotta get home', can wait for another flight and get handsomely rewarded for their patience.

yeah but being that he is a doctor and had patients to attend to the next morning - that seems like that would take precedent over wanting an employee to have a last minute ride.
 

ok doser

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the news media will trickle this story out as long as it can

the latest:


According to the New York Post, Dao is a 69-year-old father of five -- four of his children are also doctors -- and a grandfather. He went to medical school in Vietnam in the 1970s before moving to the U.S., where he has a criminal past.

Dao was arrested in 2003 after being accused of trading prescription drugs for sexual favors from a male patient he later hired. He denied paying for sex, but was charged with 98 felony drug counts for illegally prescribing and trafficking painkillers, including hydrocodone, Oxycontin and Percocet.

The Kentucky Board of Medical Licensure says Dao was convicted of multiple felonies in 2004 and was placed on five years supervised probation in early 2005. He surrendered his medical license a month later.

Dao was allowed to continue practicing medicine again in 2015 under limited conditions. He and his wife, Teresa, have an office together in Elizabethtown.

TMZ reports the medical board imposed more restrictions last year, only allowing him to practice internal medicine in an outpatient facility one day a week. A doctor said Dao had interpersonal problems and would often "unilaterally choose to do his own thing."

 

Angel4Truth

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the news media will trickle this story out as long as it can

the latest:


According to the New York Post, Dao is a 69-year-old father of five -- four of his children are also doctors -- and a grandfather. He went to medical school in Vietnam in the 1970s before moving to the U.S., where he has a criminal past.

Dao was arrested in 2003 after being accused of trading prescription drugs for sexual favors from a male patient he later hired. He denied paying for sex, but was charged with 98 felony drug counts for illegally prescribing and trafficking painkillers, including hydrocodone, Oxycontin and Percocet.

The Kentucky Board of Medical Licensure says Dao was convicted of multiple felonies in 2004 and was placed on five years supervised probation in early 2005. He surrendered his medical license a month later.

Dao was allowed to continue practicing medicine again in 2015 under limited conditions. He and his wife, Teresa, have an office together in Elizabethtown.

TMZ reports the medical board imposed more restrictions last year, only allowing him to practice internal medicine in an outpatient facility one day a week. A doctor said Dao had interpersonal problems and would often "unilaterally choose to do his own thing."


Thats pretty bad, but does it excuse what the airline did to him? The airline also lied multiple times and kept changing it as more videos come out.
 

WizardofOz

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yeah but being that he is a doctor and had patients to attend to the next morning - that seems like that would take precedent over wanting an employee to have a last minute ride.

Of course. This is why every other sane airline will make waiting for the next flight very attractive (free hotel, free flight and future flights, etc) so that someone will take the offer or at least won't be too upset if they are actually forced to take such a deal.

You don't just pick a random seat and pull the guy off the plane. That is why I would fire whoever let too many on the plane to begin with if I were United.
 

glorydaz

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he knew he was being recorded and chose to overreact - the screaming was ridiculous - over it you can hear the security people saying "come on, man" as if saying "good grief, stop being such a drama queen"


remember the "don't taze me bro" guy?

I agree. He was looking to get attention, probably with the goal to sue the airlines. That said, the airlines should have used a better tactic, knowing how politically correct this country has become. Had they just offered more incentives, someone would have volunteered. I would have said, we'll just sit here until someone else gets off, then the other passengers would be giving the guy the evil eye. :chuckle:

It does remind me of the school system, though. If one kid acts up, everyone else has to leave the room. Not like the good old days, that's for sure.
 

Angel4Truth

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I agree. He was looking to get attention, probably with the goal to sue the airlines. That said, the airlines should have used a better tactic, knowing how politically correct this country has become. Had they just offered more incentives, someone would have volunteered. I would have said, we'll just sit here until someone else gets off, then the other passengers would be giving the guy the evil eye. :chuckle:

It does remind me of the school system, though. If one kid acts up, everyone else has to leave the room. Not like the good old days, that's for sure.

Except the passengers are saying he didnt act up, he was forced out of his seat and they were trying to pull him out, that he was quiet, and even at first considered an 800 offer to give up his seat till he found out he couldnt fly out till the next day, instead of later that day.

airline dropped original "beligerant" claim after multiple proofs of otherwise. Also the security is who slammed his head into a headrest and that agent had been placed on leave.
 

glorydaz

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Except the passengers are saying he didnt act up, he was forced out of his seat and they were trying to pull him out, that he was quiet, and even at first considered an 800 offer to give up his seat till he found out he couldnt fly out till the next day, instead of later that day.

airline dropped original "beligerant" claim after multiple proofs of otherwise. Also the security is who slammed his head into a headrest and that agent had been placed on leave.

Oh, well I had only heard one passenger, and he said the guy was acting like a jerk. When I read his record, I figured it made sense. It reminded me of that lady that was refusing to quit harassing that Trump supporter and had to be escorted off the plane. I'm just glad I don't plan on flying anywhere, that's all I can say. ;)

In that instance, the passengers were all clapping when the woman was removed, and in this case they were far from clapping, so that tells you something right there.
 

Angel4Truth

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Oh, well I had only heard one passenger, and he said the guy was acting like a jerk. When I read his record, I figured it made sense. It reminded me of that lady that was refusing to quit harassing that Trump supporter and had to be escorted off the plane. I'm just glad I don't plan on flying anywhere, that's all I can say. ;)

In that instance, the passengers were all clapping when the woman was removed, and in this case they were far from clapping, so that tells you something right there.

Not the issue here, in fact the majority of passengers were crying and appalled of what they did to that man. He started screaming when their security was violently removing him, so violent the one who assaulted him, is now on leave from his position.

The airline repeatedly lied about what happened, and kept changing their tune as more and more came out.

The mans past has nothing whatever to do with this.
 

glorydaz

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Not the issue here, in fact the majority of passengers were crying and appalled of what they did to that man. He started screaming when their security was violently removing him, so violent the one who assaulted him, is now on leave from his position.

The airline repeatedly lied about what happened, and kept changing their tune as more and more came out.

The mans past has nothing whatever to do with this.

I was just letting you know what I thought with my limited knowledge of the situation.
 

Angel4Truth

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What do you bet, other passengers on that flight sue for emotional distress at witnessing this?

Such boneheads in charge on that flight, even 5 grand would have saved them money in this case.
 

Ktoyou

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Everyone got a 'thanks' from me for posting in this thread. It is news.

I think there is going to be an additional problem for manhandling a 69 year old man. Heard on news, China has remarked in him being Asian.

United Airlines was very stupid having this happen! :doh::wave:
 

Angel4Truth

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United Airlines says controversial flight was not overbooked; CEO apologizes again

excerpt from the link:

United spokesman Jonathan Guerin said Tuesday that all 70 seats on United Express Flight 3411 were filled, but the plane was not overbooked as the airline previously reported. Instead, United and regional affiliate Republic Airlines, which operated the flight, selected four passengers to be removed to accommodate crew members needed in Louisville the next day. The passengers were selected based on a combination of criteria spelled out in United’s contract of carriage, including frequent-flier status, fare type, check-in time and connecting flight implications, among others, according to United.

Three passengers went quietly. The fourth, who was literally pulled out of his seat and off the plane, was David Dao, a physician in Elizabethtown, Ky...more at link

This (overbooking)among many other lies told by the airline and airport security. No one should have been asked to leave, as the flight was not overbooked to begin with.
 

glassjester

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The flight was from Chicago to Louisville? In the amount of time it takes to take off, fly there, and disembark, those 4 employees probably could have just taken a car.
 
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