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You all have a dead faith if what you all say is what you actually believe, stop using the Bible to say your faith is anything more than what James describes it as.
You're making legal fictions of scriptures.

If you do not work, you do not eat- isn't that what you all say to the homeless?

Well, if you do not have works than you do not live in faith. It's that simple- nobody has faith in a thing and not act accordingly to it.
It seems like Madists stop mid action and dispense nothing, and then chop the Bible to pieces to call it 'Christianity'.
 

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You all have a dead faith if what you all say is what you actually believe, stop using the Bible to say your faith is anything more than what James describes it as.
You're making legal fictions of scriptures.

If you do not work, you do not eat- isn't that what you all say to the homeless?

Well, if you do not have works than you do not live in faith. It's that simple- nobody has faith in a thing and not act accordingly to it.
It seems like Madists stop mid action and dispense nothing, and then chop the Bible to pieces to call it 'Christianity'.

Wow! That was excellent!

However, you are a Catholic, and you add works that end up nullifying God's words.

The Catholics DO things that God hates.

If you obey God, then you will not call any brother 'father', not even 'pope'.

If you obey God, then you will not make statues and images and bow to them.

If you obey God, then you will not pray to anyone, not even Mary.

If you obey God, then the works of obedience are truly things God tells you to do and not what some man who calls himself 'Papa, Pope' tells you.
 

God's Truth

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Just look at the Catholics who blazing DIS-OBEY the gospel.

You Madists are no different because you say we do not have to obey.

Obeying is not an enemy.
 

God's Truth

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But James didn't state a command, he declared a truth: faith without works is a dead faith.

It doesn't matter who states it, it's true no matter the case. What you all do is try to annul it by Paul, which is contradicting the Spirit. The more one digs into Madism, the more it just falls apart.

But the things that Catholics do destroys their part in witnessing.
 

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I have found in the Bible that there is just one scripture, if all would believe and obey, could stop false religions and false doctrine from even beginning. Thank You God, Father in heaven, for Your Powerful Word, Jesus Christ. Amen.
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Here is one scripture that puts an end to all the denominations that say, "Jesus is not God", and "Jesus is not God the Father".
John 18:6 When Jesus said, "I am he," they drew back and fell to the ground.
There are many different denominations which say Jesus is not God, and other denominations that preach the false trinity doctrine which says Jesus is not the Father.
There is only one God and He is the Father; and since Jesus is God, he must be the Father. There are not more than one I am he.
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Here is one scripture that disqualifies all religions that say there is more than one way to the Father.
John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Unitarians say there are more ways to the Father than Jesus is.
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Here is one scripture that should stop Preterists from believing that Jesus already came and will not come again.
Romans 8:23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.
We still die physically. We still have to have an immortal body given to us, the redemption of our bodies. The dying of God’s creation has not yet stopped, but will stop when God gives us immortal bodies and makes the Earth anew.
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Here is one scripture that should stop a person from continuing to contemplate believing the Mormon religion. In addition, this one scripture should stop someone from thinking of joining the Islamic/Muslim religion.
Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
Joseph Smith says the angel Moroni gave him the other testament of Jesus Christ. Do not let anyone, nor the Mormon missionaries, try to explain away what Galatians 1:8 says! The Islamic religion claims that an angel appeared to their prophet and gave him the Qur'an.
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Here is a scripture that exposes the Catholic Religion.
Matthew 23:9 And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
Catholics have a Pope. Pope means 'father'. The Catholics even call their Pope 'Holy Father'. 'Holy Father' is a name reserved for God. Not only do the Catholic parishioners call the Pope and priests ‘father,’ the Pope and priests call each other 'father'. Jesus said not to call any one on earth 'father' and that they are all brothers in Christ. There are many other false doctrines in the Catholic religion, but starting from the top of their religion--- the Pope, that should be enough to stop there with that religion.
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Here is the one scripture that should stop the Jehovah Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists, Messianic Jews, Christadelphians, and any religion who say people do not go to heaven.
Matthew 23:13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut off the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
There are other false doctrines in those religions, but that one scripture should be enough to stop any further involvement.
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This one scripture should stop any confusion brought on by Pentecostals.
Ephesians 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
There is only one baptism of the Holy Spirit. Pentecostals believe in more than one baptism of the Holy Spirit. There is “one baptism.”
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Here is a scripture that should cause to more than question if one's tongue speaking is biblical. In addition, this one scripture should show there are not new prophecies, or new knowledge, as evidenced in the fact that we do not add to the bible.
1 Corinthians 13:8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
Pentecostals, Charismatics, Assemblies of God, and the Word of Faith Movement believe in their false nowadays tongue speaking. In addition, this scripture tells us the Mormon religion is false with their added prophecies of “Another Testament.” Prophecies ceased. The New Testament times were special times, it was during the laying of the foundation of the truth when God testified to what the apostles said, God testified to it by signs, wonders and various miracles, and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will; signs such as speaking in tongues. See Hebrews 2:4. People spoke in tongues and prophesied. The foundation has been laid, the sign has been given, and tongues and prophecies have ceased.
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Here is one scripture to show that infant baptism is not biblical.
Acts 2:38 Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
An infant cannot repent. Many denominations perform infant baptisms. The way to salvation changes by infant baptism. Infant baptism is not biblical. Catholics, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Episcopalians, a sect of Methodists, and Reformed denominations perform infant baptisms; they preach this falseness, which is a damaging blow to those needing the truth.
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Here is one scripture to show that baptism is by immersion.
Romans 6:4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
Baptism represents how a believer equates his life with Christ’s death, burial, and resurrection. Our old person is to die and be buried with Jesus through baptism into death. We are buried with the water, and raised out of the water, raised to live a new life through Jesus.
Picture how baptism looks…the believer comes to make the pledge to God, to die to the sins of the world; so now standing in the water the believer falls back, as if dead; then, the believer goes under the water, buried; then, the believer rises up out of the water, raises up to live a new life.
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Here is a scripture that should dismiss Calvin's predestination belief.
1 Timothy 4:10 (and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.
Reformed denominations believe in Calvin's theory. Calvinist beliefs are that God made people incapable of believing in Jesus; and that God will not allow them to believe, these people created to go to hell. Calvinism is a false doctrine. 1 Timothy 4:10 plainly says that the Savior is for "all men". Reformed denominations practicing this falsehood usually have the name “Reformed” in their denominations name . Calvinists say we were born without the ability to believe in Jesus. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that. Why would you believe something that is not the word of God?
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Here is one scripture that explains there is an eternal punishment.
Matthew 25:46 Jesus said, “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Many believe in a temporary punishment, whereas after punishment all the unrepentant will go to eternal life with Jesus. Jesus says that there is an eternal punishment.
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Here is one scripture that should stop some from saying that Jesus will save all.
Exodus 32:33 The LORD replied to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book.
Some believe in Universalism, a belief that all will be saved. However, this one scripture shows that God will blot people out of the book of the living.
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Here is one scripture that should stop all from believing and teaching the falseness of “faith alone.”
James 2:24 You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.
Many misunderstand Paul about ‘no works’. The works that Paul is speaking about that do not save are the ceremonial works. The only time the Bible tells us “faith alone” is to tell us what kind of faith not to have. Baptists, Lutherans, and many denominations teach and practice this falseness, it interferes with helping others to seek God and find Him. It goes against God and His Truth.
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Here is one scripture to do away with Mid Acts Dispensationalists.
Luke 16:16 "The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone is forcing their way into it.
Mid Acts Dispensationalists say that Jesus and Paul preached different Gospels and for different people; Mid Acts Dispensationalists say that the things Jesus said while on earth are not for us all today. They are badly mistaken not knowing God and the scriptures. What Jesus says in Luke shows us that there is one Gospel of Jesus Christ and it was preached since John and preached by Jesus.
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There is no if, and, but, or maybe. Jesus' word is plain and clear. Now if only we will believe and obey. We do not need to join a church. We are the church. Jesus himself lives in those he saves. Even when two are gathered in Jesus’ name, he is there in our midst. Even when I am alone, and I cry out to him for help, he comes to help me.
 

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Those with true faith KNOW that they will never stop believing. Since the gospel comes in much assurance and in power and in the Holy Spirit it becomes a part of our being and we cannot be separated from the truth of the gospel.
jamie's Bible is missing a few pages:

Eph 1:13-14 (AKJV/PCE)
(1:13) In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, (1:14) Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Eph 4:30 (AKJV/PCE)
(4:30) And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
 

God's Truth

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Don't lie. We already know what you believe. You believe works prove salvation and without works, salvation is disproved.

Faith and obedience go together.

Did you, like a robot, hear the gospel and then say, "Okay, I believe, and now I am wonderful"?

Or did you hear the gospel and cry, or with sorrow in your heart admit you were a sinner and repent of all your evil?
 

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Let's try to help those who want to be saved.

Do you really just want to talk people into just believing they are saved?

There is no way I was just going to have belief in my believing.

I wanted to KNOW if I was saved.
 

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2. You don't follow the teachings of Jesus, only Paul so who are you to talk about another?

Neither do you "follow the teachings of Jesus," as the Lord Jesus Christ only taught the teachings, words, of God the Father, which included the law, moron. Paul taught the teachings of the risen, glorified, ascended, seat "Lord from heaven," and Paul's words, are His. Want the scriptural verses, since all you do is study what others say the scriptures teach, not the scriptures themselves?

No, you don't. Clueless. My evidence? You.
 

meshak

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You are asking an idiot to answer a question. What good will that do? She says Paul is a false teacher. What can you do with dung?

wow, you just cannot resist showing your true color, can you?

You cannot make your own insightful thread so you come into your enemy poster and trying to be a hero and star.

Jesus loves you, friend.

don't let your enemy upset you so much.

peace:)
 

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Answer the question, please, since you're here to defend "Jesus" against all the unbelieving Trin sex perverts.

Wow. What's wrong with you? Why do you have your mind on sex when it should not be? You don't think that is sick when you do that? Are you going to defend your falseness?
 

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No it doesn't. It exalts James at Paul's expense. Lordship Salvation is proof.



If "arbitrary" means "taking the BIble in context and assuming God meant exactly what He said to this or that group, and He didn't necessarily tell all groups to believe or do the same things," then yes, MAD absolutely is arbitrary.

You exalt Paul over everyone, to a fault!

There is only ONE GOSPEL.

Paul says not to put one over another.
 

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Foolish woman.
Scripture does not say that those on the ark were guaranteed eternal life.
How is it that you find ways to belittle scripture?

Obeying God guarantees eternal life...his word ARE life...how in the world do you think you get that life by just saying you believe?

You get life by doing his words.
 

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"Faith without works is a dead faith"

Riddle me this, riddle me that-
Is that a command, or is he stating a fact?

God lies to people is what you believe, hombre. If you took the Bible in context, you would see that Paul and James don't teach two different things.

Catholics DO NOT obey God's words.

Do not call any brother 'father'.
do not make a statue and bow to it.
Do not pray to anyone but God.
Repent of sins to be saved that means no infant baptisms.

If you would obey those things, you would be obeying God!

If you would obey those things, your Catholic relations would be closer to the Truth.

The Catholics works are AGAINST GOD, the works they do are the things God hates.
 

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Your faith is that you will be judged by your righteousness instead of the righteousness of Christ.
You rely on the wrong one's righteousness.


Romans 5:18 KJV
(18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

My righteousness is FROM Jesus Christ.
 
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