ECT MADists don't follow Paul

john w

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Nope-who taught it............

-Who taught the law, in the OT, to the children of Israel?
-Who taught the law, in Matthew-John, which was OC, prior to the dbr?
-Who taught the "early Acts" believers, to adhere to the law, , including the feasts, "the appointed feasts," such as Pentecost,going to the temple?
-Who taught the OC/"Old Testament,"from the cross, until AD 70, since you say that the OC did not end until AD 70-"transition period...God did not flip a lightswitch"?
-Who taught the law to Paul, the Galatians.............per:

Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Jan Crouch?
-The Lord Jesus Christ spoke only the words of God the Father(as all prophets did-God's spokesman)-he taught the Savior, what to say. Go on record, and assert that God the Father did not teach him to teach the law.
-Tell us why the Lord Jesus Christ kept the law, a law, that He never taught. Go ahead.
-Who taught Paul to go to the synagogues-only law observant people allowed in.
-Who picked Ananias, "a devout man according to the law," to go to Saul/Paul
-Who taught Peter to observe the dietary restrictions, according to the law?
-Who taught Paul to observe the feasts?

Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.




Does the law serve to bring others to Christ today, candyandy?


andy:This "Jesus" never taught the law, but someone taught Paul the law, and the Galatians, to bring them to Christ, and through the law, is the knowledge of sin, but God never taught the law.

Dopie Opie the fruitie Penty.



Not a peep.



The law exposes the inadequacies of the flesh, and condemns them.
Therefore there needs to be an alternative way of justification apart from the flesh. That is, apart from works, because works are flawed. Hence the reason a new covenant was sought.


Who taught it, above.


You lied-you said the law no longer exists.


You are nowhere theologically, but you do have Marowbie who follows you around like a lost puppy.
I can imagine you riding to Aspen on a scooter with Marowbie on the back.

I stay on topic, while dismissing your dodge ball, do the hokey pokey, fruitie games. And my topic, is your "argument." Thus...

-Who taught the law, in the OT, to the children of Israel?
-Who taught the law, in Matthew-John, which was OC, prior to the dbr?
-Who taught the "early Acts" believers, to adhere to the law, , including the feasts, "the appointed feasts," such as Pentecost,going to the temple?
-Who taught the OC/"Old Testament,"from the cross, until AD 70, since you say that the OC did not end until AD 70-"transition period...God did not flip a lightswitch"?
-Who taught the law to Paul, the Galatians.............per:

Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Jan Crouch?
-The Lord Jesus Christ spoke only the words of God the Father(as all prophets did-God's spokesman)-he taught the Savior, what to say. Go on record, and assert that God the Father did not teach him to teach the law.
-Tell us why the Lord Jesus Christ kept the law, a law, that He never taught. Go ahead.
-Who taught Paul to go to the synagogues-only law observant people allowed in.
-Who picked Ananias, "a devout man according to the law," to go to Saul/Paul
-Who taught Peter to observe the dietary restrictions, according to the law?
-Who taught Paul to observe the feasts?

Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.




Does the law serve to bring others to Christ today, candyandy?


andy:This "Jesus" never taught the law, but someone taught Paul the law, and the Galatians, to bring them to Christ, and through the law, is the knowledge of sin, but God never taught the law.

Dopie Opie the fruitie Penty.



Not a peep.
 

tetelestai

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Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

What does the word "was" mean Little Johnny?

The word "was" is a past tense verb.

Meaning the law is operative no longer.

Paul didn't use the word "is", he used the word "was"
 

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Yep.

And Peter didn't even plan on being there. That's why Jesus had to tell Peter not to leave Jerusalem.
Hogwash. More made up crap to support a myth.

If Peter was going to observe the law of Moses, Jesus would have known that Peter was going to be in Jerusalem. Instead, Jesus had to tell Peter not to leave:

(Acts 1:4) “Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about.


If Peter was going to observe the law, Jesus wouldn't have had to tell him not to leave Jerusalem.
The staying in Jerusalem was LONGER term than just the feast day, liar-boy.

This is why THEY would not leave even after the EXTREME persecution started.
Act 8:1 KJV And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.
Go back to the drawing board Mr. Pretender (Telmorelies).
 

john w

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Nowhere after the cross did Peter observe the law.



"Is Pentecost according to the law?"-saint John W


Yep.

And Peter didn't even plan on being there. That's why Jesus had to tell Peter not to leave Jerusalem.

If Peter was going to observe the law of Moses, Jesus would have known that Peter was going to be in Jerusalem. Instead, Jesus had to tell Peter not to leave:



Observe, the deception, above.


OK Craigie-agreed on a thread, you deceiving punk?
 

tetelestai

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Hogwash. More made up crap to support a myth.


The staying in Jerusalem was LONGER term than just the feast day, liar-boy.

This is why THEY would not leave even after the EXTREME persecution started.
Act 8:1 KJV And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.
Go back to the drawing board Mr. Pretender (Telmorelies).

Wrong Divider strikes again

"but wait for the gift my Father promised"
 

tetelestai

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(Col 2:14 KJV) Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Gee.....there's that past tense verb "was" again.

MADists claim the ordinances were still in place after the cross for those in Christ.

MAD is a mess.
 

john w

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What does the word "was" mean Little Johnny?

The word "was" is a past tense verb.

Meaning the law is operative no longer.

Paul didn't use the word "is", he used the word "was"

More deception.


You foul, wicked demon, you.

No, you piece of dung, the "was" here, is telling us that it is no longer our schoolmaster, as it once was, since it served its purpose, to bring Paul, the Galatians, the respective lost person, and lost people, to Christ,as it still does today, proving that you are a satanic liar, as you assert:

"The law was nailed to the cross....The law was abolished at the cross.........."


He lies again.

"The law serves to bring people to Christ..."-Tetellies



You habitual, satanic liar.
 

john w

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(Col 2:14 KJV) Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Gee.....there's that past tense verb "was" again.

MADists claim the ordinances were still in place after the cross for those in Christ.

MAD is a mess.

The handwriting of ordinances was nailed to the cross, you satanist, but these "handwriting of ordinances" are not the law, as you satanically assert:


"The law was nailed to the cross....The law was abolished at the cross..."-Tetellies Craigie

You can't be this stupid-you are demon possessed.
 

andyc

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Nope-who taught it............

-Who taught the law, in the OT, to the children of Israel?
-Who taught the law, in Matthew-John, which was OC, prior to the dbr?
-Who taught the "early Acts" believers, to adhere to the law, , including the feasts, "the appointed feasts," such as Pentecost,going to the temple?
-Who taught the OC/"Old Testament,"from the cross, until AD 70, since you say that the OC did not end until AD 70-"transition period...God did not flip a lightswitch"?
-Who taught the law to Paul, the Galatians.............per:

Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Jan Crouch?
-The Lord Jesus Christ spoke only the words of God the Father(as all prophets did-God's spokesman)-he taught the Savior, what to say. Go on record, and assert that God the Father did not teach him to teach the law.
-Tell us why the Lord Jesus Christ kept the law, a law, that He never taught. Go ahead.
-Who taught Paul to go to the synagogues-only law observant people allowed in.
-Who picked Ananias, "a devout man according to the law," to go to Saul/Paul
-Who taught Peter to observe the dietary restrictions, according to the law?
-Who taught Paul to observe the feasts?

Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.




Does the law serve to bring others to Christ today, candyandy?


andy:This "Jesus" never taught the law, but someone taught Paul the law, and the Galatians, to bring them to Christ, and through the law, is the knowledge of sin, but God never taught the law.

Dopie Opie the fruitie Penty.



Not a peep.





Who taught it, above.


You lied-you said the law no longer exists.



I stay on topic, while dismissing your dodge ball, do the hokey pokey, fruitie games. And my topic, is your "argument." Thus...

-Who taught the law, in the OT, to the children of Israel?
-Who taught the law, in Matthew-John, which was OC, prior to the dbr?
-Who taught the "early Acts" believers, to adhere to the law, , including the feasts, "the appointed feasts," such as Pentecost,going to the temple?
-Who taught the OC/"Old Testament,"from the cross, until AD 70, since you say that the OC did not end until AD 70-"transition period...God did not flip a lightswitch"?
-Who taught the law to Paul, the Galatians.............per:

Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Jan Crouch?
-The Lord Jesus Christ spoke only the words of God the Father(as all prophets did-God's spokesman)-he taught the Savior, what to say. Go on record, and assert that God the Father did not teach him to teach the law.
-Tell us why the Lord Jesus Christ kept the law, a law, that He never taught. Go ahead.
-Who taught Paul to go to the synagogues-only law observant people allowed in.
-Who picked Ananias, "a devout man according to the law," to go to Saul/Paul
-Who taught Peter to observe the dietary restrictions, according to the law?
-Who taught Paul to observe the feasts?

Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.




Does the law serve to bring others to Christ today, candyandy?


andy:This "Jesus" never taught the law, but someone taught Paul the law, and the Galatians, to bring them to Christ, and through the law, is the knowledge of sin, but God never taught the law.

Dopie Opie the fruitie Penty.



Not a peep.

You use the word "law", but do not use common sense to determine which aspects of the law are referred to.

The moral law has never been abolished. The judicial aspect of the law condemns failure. This has been abolished, along with the ceremonial aspect of the law which exposes and condemns physical inadequacies.

You use the word "law" collectively every time you see it. It's a gnostic trend that basically seeks to remove moral restraint completely. If there is no moral law, it is impossible to commit a sin.
Whereas scripture teaches the necessity to walk in the Spirit in order to overcome the lusts of the flesh. This is something the mads never mention, because you only focus on the flesh, as that is all you are.
 

john w

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MAD is a mess.

"Is Pentecost according to the law?"-saint John W



Yep.

And Peter didn't even plan on being there. That's why Jesus had to tell Peter not to leave Jerusalem.

If Peter was going to observe the law of Moses, Jesus would have known that Peter was going to be in Jerusalem. Instead, Jesus had to tell Peter not to leave:


Observe, the deception, above.


OK Craigie-agreed on a thread, you deceiving punk?


And you are going to address the below, you soft, pudgy sodomite:


1.
-Who taught the law, in the OT, to the children of Israel?
-Who taught the law, in Matthew-John, which was OC, prior to the dbr?
-Who taught the "early Acts" believers, to adhere to the law, including the feasts, "the appointed feasts," such as Pentecost?
-Who taught the OC/"Old Testament,"from the cross, until AD 70, since you say that the OC did not end until AD 70-"transition period...God did not flip a lightswitch"?
-Who taught the law to Paul, the Galatians.............per:

Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Josephus? Wikipedia?
-The Lord Jesus Christ spoke only the words of God the Father(as all prophets did-God's spokesman)-he taught the Savior, what to say. Go on record, and assert that God the Father did not teach him to teach the law.
-Tell us why the Lord Jesus Christ kept the law, a law, that He never taught. Go ahead.


"The law brought me, and brings others to Christ..."-Craigie



Who taught you the law, satanist?

Does the law serve to bring others to Christ today?

-Who taught the law to Paul, the Galatians.............per:

Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

2. Identify this "The Greek" that has "with Israel" in the Ephesians passage.


3. Tell us about this "The Roman army was the second coming " "invention."

4. Identify these infallible teachers, you claim, on record, teach you.







Who taught Paul to observe "the appointed times," Craigie??


Who?
 

john w

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You use the word "law", but do not use common sense to determine which aspects of the law are referred to.

The moral law has never been abolished. The judicial aspect of the law condemns failure. This has been abolished, along with the ceremonial aspect of the law which exposes and condemns physical inadequacies.

You use the word "law" collectively every time you see it. It's a gnostic trend that basically seeks to remove moral restraint completely. If there is no moral law, it is impossible to commit a sin.
Whereas scripture teaches the necessity to walk in the Spirit in order to overcome the lusts of the flesh. This is something the mads never mention, because you only focus on the flesh, as that is all you are.

Evasion, from our fruitcake. I stay on topic:


Nope-who taught it............

-Who taught the law, in the OT, to the children of Israel?
-Who taught the law, in Matthew-John, which was OC, prior to the dbr?
-Who taught the "early Acts" believers, to adhere to the law, , including the feasts, "the appointed feasts," such as Pentecost,going to the temple?
-Who taught the OC/"Old Testament,"from the cross, until AD 70, since you say that the OC did not end until AD 70-"transition period...God did not flip a lightswitch"?
-Who taught the law to Paul, the Galatians.............per:

Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Jan Crouch?
-The Lord Jesus Christ spoke only the words of God the Father(as all prophets did-God's spokesman)-he taught the Savior, what to say. Go on record, and assert that God the Father did not teach him to teach the law.
-Tell us why the Lord Jesus Christ kept the law, a law, that He never taught. Go ahead.
-Who taught Paul to go to the synagogues-only law observant people allowed in.
-Who picked Ananias, "a devout man according to the law," to go to Saul/Paul
-Who taught Peter to observe the dietary restrictions, according to the law?
-Who taught Paul to observe the feasts?

Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.




Does the law serve to bring others to Christ today, candyandy?


andy:This "Jesus" never taught the law, but someone taught Paul the law, and the Galatians, to bring them to Christ, and through the law, is the knowledge of sin, but God never taught the law.

Dopie Opie the fruitie Penty.



Not a peep.




Who taught it, above.


You lied-you said the law no longer exists.



I stay on topic, while dismissing your dodge ball, do the hokey pokey, fruitie games. And my topic, is your "argument." Thus...

-Who taught the law, in the OT, to the children of Israel?
-Who taught the law, in Matthew-John, which was OC, prior to the dbr?
-Who taught the "early Acts" believers, to adhere to the law, , including the feasts, "the appointed feasts," such as Pentecost,going to the temple?
-Who taught the OC/"Old Testament,"from the cross, until AD 70, since you say that the OC did not end until AD 70-"transition period...God did not flip a lightswitch"?
-Who taught the law to Paul, the Galatians.............per:

Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Jan Crouch?
-The Lord Jesus Christ spoke only the words of God the Father(as all prophets did-God's spokesman)-he taught the Savior, what to say. Go on record, and assert that God the Father did not teach him to teach the law.
-Tell us why the Lord Jesus Christ kept the law, a law, that He never taught. Go ahead.
-Who taught Paul to go to the synagogues-only law observant people allowed in.
-Who picked Ananias, "a devout man according to the law," to go to Saul/Paul
-Who taught Peter to observe the dietary restrictions, according to the law?
-Who taught Paul to observe the feasts?

Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.




Does the law serve to bring others to Christ today, candyandy?


andy:This "Jesus" never taught the law, but someone taught Paul the law, and the Galatians, to bring them to Christ, and through the law, is the knowledge of sin, but God never taught the law.

Dopie Opie the fruitie Penty.



Not a peep.
 

andyc

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A new testament understanding of the law deals with sin in the heart, whereas the old testament only had a legal judicial power over people who performed the act.
Only the act is condemned under the OC, but Jesus revealed the deceitfulness of the heart. The pharisees condemned sinners, because they did what the pharisees were lusting to do in their heart.
This is why people who look within and see the corrupt Adamic nature, and desire to have their consciences cleansed, are repentant. And the mads don't even believe in repentance, when actually they don't even know what it is, because they only understand sin as an act.
 

john w

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(Col 2:14 KJV) Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Gee.....there's that past tense verb "was" again.

MADists claim the ordinances were still in place after the cross for those in Christ.

MAD is a mess.

And yet another one of his false accusations, "broad brushed, sweeping" generalizations-satanic debating technique, due to his obsession sickness.



Show us the MAD proponents, quotes, that have asserted that "the handwriting of ordinances" were still in place after the cross.

Show us, Clay Aiken clone Craigie.
 

Right Divider

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You use the word "law", but do not use common sense to determine which aspects of the law are referred to.

The moral law has never been abolished. The judicial aspect of the law condemns failure. This has been abolished, along with the ceremonial aspect of the law which exposes and condemns physical inadequacies.

You use the word "law" collectively every time you see it. It's a gnostic trend that basically seeks to remove moral restraint completely. If there is no moral law, it is impossible to commit a sin.
Whereas scripture teaches the necessity to walk in the Spirit in order to overcome the lusts of the flesh. This is something the mads never mention, because you only focus on the flesh, as that is all you are.
You're a liar andy.

We agree with all of scripture and with Paul when he tells us to walk after the Spirit. But we are NOT under the law.... any law.

We are dead to the law that we might live unto Christ.

You cannot be joined to Christ while you're still under the law.

Law following is carnal and we are not in the flesh in Christ.
 

andyc

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You're a liar andy.

We agree with all of scripture and with Paul when he tells us to walk after the Spirit. But we are NOT under the law.... any law.

We are dead to the law that we might live unto Christ.

You cannot be joined to Christ while you're still under the law.

Law following is carnal and we are not in the flesh in Christ.

You're agreeing with what I said.

The moral aspect of the law can never be removed, otherwise sin cannot be defined as a violation of a moral principle.

We're getting into the heart of what mad is about here. And this is where it stinks of gnosticism right to the core.

Concerning sin, only the judicial aspect of the law, that was empowered to condemn a sin act, has been abolished. The understanding is that if we are alive to God in the Spirit/spirit, the physical act of the body cannot be condemned because Jesus took the punishment for it on the cross.
However, as Paul said, "For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?"
 
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tetelestai

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You always blurt out some "fact" without any evidence.

Show us where Peter kept the law of Moses after the cross?


MAD teaches what is contained in the Bible.

No it doesn't.

MAD is nothing more than a compilation of the false teachings of Darby, Bullinger, O'Hair, Anderson, and other men.

You lies have been exposed over and over and yet you just keep up the lying.

You keep saying that, but you have yet to show us where Peter observed the law after the cross

(1 Peter 2:24) “He himself bore our sins” in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; “by his wounds you have been healed.”

Does the above from Peter sound like someone who was observing the Mosaic Law?

MAD is a mess.
 
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