ECT MADists don't follow Paul

Interplanner

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All his preaching is based on forcing scripture to agree that the church and Israel are separate.

He said when he did that the truth virtually jumped off the pages at him.

Johnny posted it, didn't you read it?



That was a very unfortunate occasion because it lost the historic meaning of many passages. It is because that happened to Darby (and he accepted it) that the massive 'skip' of what Mt 24's 1st paragraph is referring to has happened. It has turned Christ into someone who was URGENTLY talking to people who would not exist for 2-3000 years. Really?
 

Interplanner

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http://www.preteristarchive.com/StudyArchive/c/clement-of-alexandria.html

tet,,,open the link it's the preterist archive (your camp) ,,then go dow right under Clement of Alexander where it says

"FOUNDER OF THE ALLEGORICAL SCHOOL OF BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION /TEACHER OF ORIGEN" ,,,,,,

if the rest of the preterits say on their web page he is why dont you agree with them?



Prob because the Christocentric way of using the OT is not exactly allegorical. There are a few, but I'd never use that term for what is going on.
 

whitestone

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Prob because the Christocentric way of using the OT is not exactly allegorical. There are a few, but I'd never use that term for what is going on.


hey,I don't agree either but somehow or the other the preterits feel strongly enough that they list these quotes from him as proof.
 

tetelestai

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http://www.preteristarchive.com/StudyArchive/c/clement-of-alexandria.html

tet,,,open the link it's the preterist archive (your camp) ,,then go dow right under Clement of Alexander where it says

"FOUNDER OF THE ALLEGORICAL SCHOOL OF BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION /TEACHER OF ORIGEN" ,,,,,,

if the rest of the preterits say on their web page he is why dont you agree with them?

They aren't saying COA is the father of Preterism.

Like I said, if there were other men who taught Preterism before COA, then how is it possible that COA was the father of Preterism?
 

tetelestai

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It has turned Christ into someone who was URGENTLY talking to people who would not exist for 2-3000 years. Really?

Mystery boy (musterion) is actually claiming that Luke 19:44 hasn't been fulfilled yet, but at the same time mystery boy claims Luke 21:6 has been fulfilled.

I kid you not.
 

tetelestai

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tet ad70 to ad150 is how many years?

Irenaeus taught before COA.

So did Justin Martyr.

From Justin Martyr's "The Dialogue with Trypho":

"You, of course, know that Jerusalem has been devastated, just as it was predicted."

Mystery boy (musterion) claims Justin Martyr was wrong. Mystery Boy claims Luke 19:44 is still unfulfilled.

But that's beside the point. The point is that Preterism can be found in just about every early church father's writings.

Whereas Dispensationalism cannot be found until the mid 1800's when Darby invented it.
 

whitestone

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tet ad70 to ad150 is how many years?

not sure if you'll answer so,,,,,ad70 to ad150 is 80 years after the destruction of the temple. It's estimated that Josephus finished around ad95-96 . So ad95-96 to the birth of COA is 55 years. is there someone else you know of that taught perterism in those 55 years?
 

whitestone

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Irenaeus taught before COA.

So did Justin Martyr.

From Justin Martyr's "The Dialogue with Trypho":

"You, of course, know that Jerusalem has been devastated, just as it was predicted."

Mystery boy (musterion) claims Justin Martyr was wrong. Mystery Boy claims Luke 19:44 is still unfulfilled.

But that's beside the point. The point is that Preterism can be found in just about every early church father's writings.

Whereas Dispensationalism cannot be found until the mid 1800's when Darby invented it.


yet the preterit site states he is premill.,,,go figure http://www.preteristarchive.com/StudyArchive/j/justin-martyr.html
 
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