Let's try something new: Do we agree on anything?

Ps82

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Or even in a septic tank (toilets are a little small for us to fit in). The point of the verses is not that God is in every place, necessarily, but that He is watching over us wherever we go. He sees us when we are in trouble. He is with us always, who are His, but is He with everyone, even those doing evil? His presence is special because it's not just a characteristic, but a promise of His help or succor.
You have hit some important points of how God interacts with people. I have a saying: God is real; he is alive; he knows what is going on in my life and cares. I have reasons for knowing/for comprehending this truth. So I agree with a lot of what you have said. This may be all that people need to know to receive mercy and salvation from our Lord .... But I want to know more about God and how he works and what his written word is telling us about him. I like to talk about what I have found.

I happen to say: That there is no where God is not. There is not a nothing place somewhere inside of God. There is not some place inside him of which he is unaware. He knows about the sparrows and he heard the blood of Abel crying out from the ground after Cain killed him.

Jeremiah 23:23-24 Am I a God at hand, declares the LORD, and not (also) a God far away? Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declared the LORD. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the LORD.

God is a spirit ... The SPIRIT.
 

Derf

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You have hit some important points of how God interacts with people. I have a saying: God is real; he is alive; he knows what is going on in my life and cares. I have reasons for knowing/for comprehending this truth. So I agree with a lot of what you have said. This may be all that people need to know to receive mercy and salvation from our Lord .... But I want to know more about God and how he works and what his written word is telling us about him. I like to talk about what I have found.

I happen to say: That there is no where God is not. There is not a nothing place somewhere inside of God. There is not some place inside him of which he is unaware. He knows about the sparrows and he heard the blood of Abel crying out from the ground after Cain killed him.

Jeremiah 23:23-24 Am I a God at hand, declares the LORD, and not (also) a God far away? Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declared the LORD. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the LORD.

God is a spirit ... The SPIRIT.
But what does it mean for a sentient being to fill heaven and earth? Just because He's a spirit doesn't mean He's like a gas that expands to fill a volume.
 

Nick M

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2 But your iniquities have separated you from your God; And your sins have hidden His face from you,

Sometimes I am surprised more people don't this. Especially when they come from the works crowd, as most do.
 

Clete

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Now, this post is really crass.
That post takes YOUR STATED doctrine and applies it to things you don't have the intelligence for it to have ever occurred to you to apply it to.

No wonder TOL hardly has anyone posting any more. I figure it is still around because there are a few old timers who remember what it was like years ago. Very sad... and Judge Rightly is an Administrator and Super moderator and a Gold Subscriber. Hmmm wonder what a Gold Subscriber Is. Someone who has paid a lot of money. ?????
Attacking the moral character of the person who made the argument rather than the argument itself. Very convincing!

Please someone else comment. How about you Robots and visitors that read but never reply. Love to talk to some of you.
LOL!
 

Clete

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Would you restate the specific question you have in mind? ... so I don't have to hunt? I hope it wasn't the one about his being in the toilet with me.

BTW, I do think God is omni-aware even to knowing what people speak in the minds. I even think he is aware when people are having sex. So there. Maybe that will make you more comfortable to know.
You pull the silliest nonsense from the most obscure passages imaginable and ignore the plain reading of the text!

Genesis 18: 20 And the Lord said, “Because the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grave, 21 I will go down now and see whether they have done altogether according to the outcry against it that has come to Me; and if not, I will know.”​

And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.
 

Ps82

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Is God in Hell?

Will God be in the Lake of Fire for the rest of eternity?
Well, believing what I do, which is -That God the Spirit is omni-present I'd say this:

Hell is an establish place within HIM ...

but his PRESENCE (The visible Emmanuel form he has chosen in order to have a relationship with mankind) is not there unless he wants to make himself aware there. I figure the form of God which first and foremost is able to exist with fire unapproachable by mortal mankind can go pretty much anywhere he wants to make himself known ... Jesus went there or somewhere similar to preach to those who lived before the ? flood.

So sorry I have to go with my husband to see about my 102 year old mother-in-law who has fallen. I hope to be back to finish this.

I believe all things established by God is IN HIM ... hell and the Lake of Fire. If you have scripture showing other wise I'd love to take a look at it with you from my perspective.
 
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