Nang
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I am a Clarkian, so I am not big on experientialism either, but I do not disagree with you in this instance.
Justification from everlasting !
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I am a Clarkian, so I am not big on experientialism either, but I do not disagree with you in this instance.
Is that anything to do with Clarkian Kentian?
Nang
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No.
I read a lot of Gordon H. Clark. See my sig.
Have you come across this nonsense about justified from everlasting without the need for the application of redemption anywhere else Nang?
I know the puritans didn't teach it and I know Calvin didn't teach it. Which I find really strange because B37 says Tulip is the gospel and seeing as he worships Calvin I would have thought he just might have read some of his works.
beloved57
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Quoting a scripture is not believing the Gospel !
beloved57
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Nang, that is why I have never considered you a believer in Christ ! To oppose Eternal Justification is to be a enemy against the Gospel !
I deserve to be cast into Hades and then the Lake of Fire.
You obviously don't understand the scope and effect of the scripture. Nowhere does it state, blessed is the man who is justified from everlasting.
beloved57
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I understand that you appear to be Apostate !
beloved57
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It looks like God is going to see to it that you get what you deserve !
Nang
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Yes, I have read that belief in Eternal Justification is a mark of Hyper-Calvinism, but Calvin did not teach such.
beloved57
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Don't matter if he taught it or not, the scriptures teach it, and if you don't believe it, you don't believe the Gospel of God's Grace in Christ !
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beloved57
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Saved in the Purpose of God equals Eternal Justification !3
This Non Imputation of sin within God's Purpose also includes full pardon or forgiveness of sins, Rom 4:7-8
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
And so just as Non Imputation of sin here denotes sins forgiven, covered, so it does in 2 Cor 5:19 , the blessing of it is secured by Non imputation, which we have a scriptural reason to believe it was before the foundation, so hence 2 Cor 5:19 is one of the clearest scriptures for Eternal Justification, which makes it a Gospel Doctrine !
This Non Imputation of sin within God's Purpose also includes full pardon or forgiveness of sins, Rom 4:7-8
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
And so just as Non Imputation of sin here denotes sins forgiven, covered, so it does in 2 Cor 5:19 , the blessing of it is secured by Non imputation, which we have a scriptural reason to believe it was before the foundation, so hence 2 Cor 5:19 is one of the clearest scriptures for Eternal Justification, which makes it a Gospel Doctrine !
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beloved57
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Saved in the Purpose of God equals Eternal Justification !4
Now many enemies of the Gospel Doctrine of Non Imputation, which does equate to Eternal Justification, they make the slanderous accusation that , for one to believe in Eternal Justification, it must mean they have no regard for the Cross of Christ, but that is a slander and misrepresentation, and here is why:
Justification is derived from non imputation of sin, which we have reasonably concluded to be first and foremost from before the foundation of the world, based upon these Two scriptures 1 Pet 1:20; Rev 13:8, where its obvious God has purposed to impute sin on Christ, in order for Him to die for them in the fullness of time Gal 4:4; 1 Cor 15:3;
Hence Eternal Justification, Non Imputation of sin has its premise on God imputing the sins of the elect upon Christ, so that He in the fullness of time would come and die for them, and so this shows the enemies of the Gospel [EJ is an Gospel Truth] that their accusations are false and unjust, for EJ has everything to do with Christ's Death for Imputed sins of the Elect to Him !
Now many enemies of the Gospel Doctrine of Non Imputation, which does equate to Eternal Justification, they make the slanderous accusation that , for one to believe in Eternal Justification, it must mean they have no regard for the Cross of Christ, but that is a slander and misrepresentation, and here is why:
Justification is derived from non imputation of sin, which we have reasonably concluded to be first and foremost from before the foundation of the world, based upon these Two scriptures 1 Pet 1:20; Rev 13:8, where its obvious God has purposed to impute sin on Christ, in order for Him to die for them in the fullness of time Gal 4:4; 1 Cor 15:3;
Hence Eternal Justification, Non Imputation of sin has its premise on God imputing the sins of the elect upon Christ, so that He in the fullness of time would come and die for them, and so this shows the enemies of the Gospel [EJ is an Gospel Truth] that their accusations are false and unjust, for EJ has everything to do with Christ's Death for Imputed sins of the Elect to Him !
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Nanja
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Amen!
God's Election, the World of the ones Christ died for,
were never under God's Wrath at any time.
How could they be if their sins were never imputed to them?
David was a Son of God and clearly understood that fact:
Ps. 32:1-2 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity,
and in whose spirit there is no guile.
Consequently, the only ones who have their sins charged to them,
are those whom Christ did not die for Rom. 9:22; they were not chosen in Christ Mat. 13:14-15 KJV
to receive the adoption of sons Eph. 1:4-5, not included in that Justified World that God Loved John 3:16.
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beloved57
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Excellent Summation ! Thanking God !
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