@NWL are you or are you not a Jehovah's Witness?
ANYTHING apart from a straight unambiguous denial will be assumed to be an answer in the affirmative and will end any involvment I have with you. I do not debate theology with cultists.
Loooool
You believed you were so high and mighty with your knowledge but you have been shamed and embarrassed in only a few posts with me. You are my new record holder at how quick someone ignore the questions and points I make as they are unanswerable as they break your false biblical understanding. You have the same flawed heart as the hypocritical Jews. Just as they looked for excuses and reasons to kill Jesus as he embarrassed them you have looked for reasons and excuses to kill the conversation with me as you are embarrassed by the points I make and you being unable to refute them. The truth apparently is meant to always prevail, yet in your case "you don't debate theology with people you claim are cultists", Jesus himself was a cultist in his day by today's definition of a cult, you are ignorant of many things.
Points I have made that are too difficult for you to handle and which I have refuted:
1) Jesus is not the one speaking in Rev 1:8 as the context shows he is separate from that one by Rev 1:4,5 this is irrefutable, no amount of evidence to the contrary that seems to show Jesus as "the one coming" or as the A&O will unwrite John written words in Rev 1:4,5. One has to tackle the contradiction head on to deal with it. You haven't even given an answer to this question but claim its pre-supposed and yet are unable to explain why its pre-supposed, you simply cannot explain why Jesus is separate from "the one who is, was and is coming" as you want and need him to be "the one who is, was and is coming"
2) You believe "root of David" somehow proves Jesus is God as you wrongly believe the word "root" has something to Jesus being the beginning of David line (I'm not even sure what you believe the root symbolizes as you don't even explain you positions but rather leave it to me to guess them) or the start of his house as its "roots". As I've said before, anyone with a good and basic understanding of the bible knows the expression of Jesus being the "root of David" has nothing to do with David coming from Jesus, but much to the contrary, is an expression that Jesus is David's descendant. Even on the first googled result on a credible trinitarian website they give the following definition,
"Root here means stock, family, descendant, hence, "the Root of David" is that which descended from David, not that from which David descended. Jesus Christ in His human nature and family connections was a descendant of David, a member of his family." (https://www.biblestudytools.com/dict...david-root-of/). The only place I have seen people claim "root of David" shows Jesus is God are from non-scholarly self-made websites or blogs where the people like yourself have no clue what the biblical language and metaphorical language means but read it on face-value.
3) The one who is was and is to come judges (Rev 16:5) thus Jesus is that one according to John 5:21,22. This was a fallacious argument that relied on the ignorance of believing the judging in Rev 16:5 and John 5:21 refer to the same judgment when they do not. Even if the "one who is, was and is coming" judges it still doesn't refer to Jesus and can still refer to the Father as the Father is the ultimate judge despite appointing Jesus as a judge, as it is the Father who judges
through his son, this is clear according to Acts 17:31,
"..Because he [the Father] has set a day on which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed".
4) The title "first and last" (F&L) and the title "Alpha and Omega" (A&O) are not synonymous. The F&L relate to Jesus death and resurrection, this is clear by the context both times the phrase F&L is used. The A&O relates to God having no beginning and end and being the only God. It contradicts God character of the title F&L was the same as A&O and if Jesus is the one God as it would, in essence, be saying Jesus as God in his divine nature as the Almighty said "I became dead" according to Rev 1:18, this is impossible as God cannot die and the verse is clearly talking about God in his highest non-human form, since, the man part of Jesus is not the A&O or Almighty, its only his divinity that is the A&O and Almighty, thus him saying "I BECAME DEAD" is the ALMIGHTY speaking in his divinity which is a contradiction of his eternality. Simply put the "first and last" and "alpha and Omega" simply cannot be in reference to the same thing otherwise God will have had to have died.
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Nothing I've said is unbiblical, everything I've shown has been backed up immensely from the bible, I have not twisted scripture in any way. if I have then show me. The only reason you are making excuses to not talk to me is that you cannot deal and refute the things I say and the questions I pose, you are fooling no one loool. I've shown your ignorance of the Biblical metaphorical language and how being the "root of David" has nothing to do with being before David, rather, its got to do with being his descendant. I've shown how your argument in relation to Jesus being judge and therefore the "one who is, was and is coming" to be fallacious, YOU have shown how you are unable to answer my question, and how the title F&L is different to A&O. You CANNOT refute the truth, that is why you are having such a hard time and have to result in running and killing the conversation the same way the Jews killed of the conversation with Jesus. YOU, the name-calling mocker who acts like a hypocrite have been defeated by JW, go lick your wounds.