Jesus died on cross and rose in three days ?
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Good Lord you're a dope. Your lies are not even clever, they're as stupid as you are.
The Catholic Church is the True Church of Christ. I am Catholic because I believe in Jesus. Try it sometime.
keypurr
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Your blinded by your love for your evil church.
Your inability to think has left you at the mercy of your church.
keypurr
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No it is far from the true church, just ask the children who were mistreated by your Holy men.
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Among the Christian churches, only the Catholic Church has existed since the time of Jesus. Every other Christian church is an offshoot of the Catholic Church. The Eastern Orthodox churches broke away from unity with the pope in 1054. The Protestant churches were established during the Reformation, which began in 1517. (Most of today’s Protestant churches are actually offshoots of the original Protestant offshoots.)
Only the Catholic Church existed in the tenth century, in the fifth century, and in the first century, faithfully teaching the doctrines given by Christ to the apostles, omitting nothing. The line of popes can be traced back, in unbroken succession, to Peter himself. This is unequaled by any institution in history.
Even the oldest government is new compared to the papacy, and the churches that send out door-to-door missionaries are young compared to the Catholic Church. Many of these churches began as recently as the nineteenth or twentieth centuries. Some even began during your own lifetime. None of them can claim to be the Church Jesus established.
The Catholic Church has existed for nearly 2,000 years, despite constant opposition from the world. This is testimony to the Church’s divine origin. It must be more than a merely human organization, especially considering that its human members— even some of its leaders—have been unwise, corrupt, or prone to heresy.
Any merely human organization with such members would have collapsed early on. The Catholic Church is today the most vigorous church in the world (and the largest, with a billion members: one sixth of the human race), and that is testimony not to the cleverness of the Church’s leaders, but to the protection of the Holy Spirit.
FOUR MARKS OF THE TRUE CHURCH
If we wish to locate the Church founded by Jesus, we need to locate the one that has the four chief marks or qualities of his Church. The Church we seek must be one, holy, catholic, and apostolic.
The Church Is One (Rom. 12:5, 1 Cor. 10:17, 12:13)
Jesus established only one Church, not a collection of differing churches. The Bible says the Church is the bride of Christ (Eph. 5:23–32). Jesus can have but one spouse, and his spouse is the Catholic Church. His Church also teaches just one set of doctrines, which must be the same as those taught by the apostles (Jude 3). This is the unity of belief to which Scripture calls us (Phil. 1:27, 2:2). Over the centuries, as doctrines are examined more fully, the Church comes to understand them more deeply (John 16:12–13), but it never understands them to mean the opposite of what they once meant.
The Church Is Holy (Eph. 5:25–27, Rev. 19:7–8)
By his grace Jesus makes the Church holy, just as he is holy. This doesn’t mean that each member is always holy. Jesus said there would be both good and bad members in the Church (John 6:70), and not all the members would go to heaven (Matt. 7:21–23). But the Church itself is holy because it is the source of holiness and is the guardian of the special means of grace Jesus established, the sacraments (cf. Eph. 5:26).
The Church Is Catholic (Matt. 28:19–20, Rev. 5:9–10)
Jesus’ Church is called catholic ("universal" in Greek) because it is his gift to all people. He told his apostles to go throughout the world and make disciples of "all nations" (Matt. 28:19–20). For 2,000 years the Catholic Church has carried out this mission, preaching the good news that Christ died for all men and that he wants all of us to be members of his universal family (Gal. 3:28). Nowadays the Catholic Church is found in every country of the world and is still sending out missionaries to "make disciples of all nations" (Matt. 28:19). The Church Jesus established was known by its most common title, "the Catholic Church," at least as early as the year 107, when Ignatius of Antioch used that title to describe the one Church Jesus founded. The title apparently was old in Ignatius’s time, which means it probably went all the way back to the time of the apostles.
The Church Is Apostolic (Eph. 2:19–20)
The Church Jesus founded is apostolic because he appointed the apostles to be the first leaders of the Church, and their successors were to be its future leaders. The apostles were the first bishops, and, since the first century, there has been an unbroken line of Catholic bishops faithfully handing on what the apostles taught the first Christians in Scripture and oral Tradition (2 Tim. 2:2). These beliefs include the bodily Resurrection of Jesus, the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist, the sacrificial nature of the Mass, the forgiveness of sins through a priest, baptismal regeneration, the existence of purgatory, Mary’s special role, and much more —even the doctrine of apostolic succession itself. Early Christian writings prove the first Christians were thoroughly Catholic in belief and practice and looked to the successors of the apostles as their leaders. What these first Christians believed is still believed by the Catholic Church. No other Church can make that claim.
Pillar of Fire, Pillar of Truth
Man’s ingenuity cannot account for this. The Church has remained one, holy, catholic, and apostolic—not through man’s effort, but because God preserves the Church he established (Matt. 16:18, 28:20). He guided the Israelites on their escape from Egypt by giving them a pillar of fire to light their way across the dark wilderness (Exod. 13:21). Today he guides us through his Catholic Church.
The Bible, sacred Tradition, and the writings of the earliest Christians testify that the Church teaches with Jesus’ authority. In this age of countless competing religions, each clamoring for attention, one voice rises above the din: the Catholic Church, which the Bible calls "the pillar and foundation of truth" (1 Tim. 3:15).
Jesus assured the apostles and their successors, the popes and the bishops, "He who listens to you listens to me, and he who rejects you rejects me" (Luke 10:16). Jesus promised to guide his Church into all truth (John 16:12–13). We can have confidence that his Church teaches only the truth.
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You're too ignorant to know what Christ's Church is. You preach a false god and a false Christ already. Of course you believe in a false church. You just shoot your ignorant mouth off about whatever your fantasy of the day is
keypurr
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How many children did Jesus molest?
Your church did not exist in Jesus's day.
In New England the RCC had to sell many of its churches to pay for the sins of their priests and leaders.
keypurr
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GARBAGE
Bee1
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Do you think that the response YOU are getting on this thread is rehearse for your benefit. No, you are the minority here. When you are shown clearly a contradiction in meaning and understanding in the same bible that you yourself use, instead of presenting material that will support your view and negate the opposing veiw, you regress back to fifth grade and call everyone stupid and dopes. By you being upset shows a clink in your armour.
I know the feeling , I was a die-hard evolutionist until I found out anthropoloist could only trace our tree back to 200,000 years. Still no evidents that we evolve from a lower primate, no missing link. You must not study what you read otherwise you would have had an answer ready before hand. Read some translated ancient biblical text that not in the KJV. You will have a better grasp on biblical interpretations and stories. Compare OT with NT. Old Testament is very descriptive, names,how many, where, how as for the NT, other than Jesus actually words and Revelations, Words and sentences can mean two or "three" things.
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that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. - Romans 10:9 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans10:9&version=NKJV
keypurr
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oatmeal
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Jesus Christ was interred for three days and three nights as Jesus said in Matthew 12:40
We must ask ourselves, "is Jesus wrong or is tradition wrong?"
Tradition is wrong.
Jesus did not die on Friday, nor did God raise him from the dead on Sunday morning.
The amount of scriptures that we would need to cover to answer this precisely is more than I would want to discus here.
Rest assured, Jesus Christ is right, he was in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights, ie, 72 hours. He died in the afternoon and was buried before sunset and God raised him 72 hours later, before sunset.
The Hebrew new day started at sunset and on the day he died, the approaching sunset would bring in the day of Passover, a sabbath, but not necessarily the weekly sabbath, unless the Passover fell on Saturday that year,
oatmeal,
re: "Jesus did not die on Friday, nor did God raise him from the dead on Sunday morning. The amount of scriptures that we would need to cover to answer this precisely is more than I would want to discus here."
Which is good because that's an issue for a different topic.
And since you're not a 6th day of the week crucifixion advocate, you probably won't know of any examples.
re: "Jesus did not die on Friday, nor did God raise him from the dead on Sunday morning. The amount of scriptures that we would need to cover to answer this precisely is more than I would want to discus here."
Which is good because that's an issue for a different topic.
And since you're not a 6th day of the week crucifixion advocate, you probably won't know of any examples.