JESUS: "Behold, I Stand At The Door And Knock" Rev. 3:20.
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It seems you don't understand the resurrections.
It's not God's will that anyone should die, but it's not his choice.
If we judge ourselves correctly then we need not be judged.
glorydaz
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Yeah, she thinks she can choose which definition suits her fancy...which is why she runs to the Greek.
"I don't like that word, I'll find a definition of that word that works for me."
He died to pay for the sins of his fellow firstfruits.
glorydaz
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An interesting job of cherry picking, but you just twisted the word of God...which does not speak well for you, Jamie.
Everything is God's choice. His choice is that those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ will be saved.
And this "judge ourselves" idea of yours..... it refers to judging on eating and drinking unworthily. Paul is not saying you will not stand before the Judgment Seat. He is not saying if you judge yourself worthy, you will be found worthy. Did you actually read the chapter you got that from?
1 Cor. 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. 30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. 33 Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. 34 And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come.
"I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing, therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live" (Deuteronomy 30:19)
Life is a choice.
glorydaz
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On the contrary, He tasted death for every man.
Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
He died for the whole human race...salvation has been provided for all. That is God's Grace.
Those who access that Grace through faith are saved.
1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1 Tim. 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
glorydaz
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It was God's choice that man has a choice. You said God had no choice.
God has no choice in our decision to live or to die.
That's our decision and ours alone.
God does not intend to create another Satan.
And Satan has a choice whether he will live or die.
glorydaz
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Where do you come up with this nonsense?
Satan made his choice when he rebelled. His fate is sealed.
God's choice is far above man's choice, so your statement is silly, at best.
It was God's decision that man was created with a a free will. That was God's choice.
So, do you have some kind of point for all this beating around the bush, or do you just like to talk about stuff?
The penalty for sin is death.
Satan's death will pay for his sins.
If Satan sins after his resurrection he will die again.
Same as anybody.
glorydaz
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Really?
The wages of sin is death. There are no second chances. We're talking LAW here...not Grace, so your hopes of a second chance are all in vain.
John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
The law was based on a presumption of innocence. There had to be at least two credible witnesses for a guilty assessment.
That's law, not grace.
God would like for everyone to receive salvation either in this age or in the age to come.
glorydaz
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Nope, that was the Law of Moses. God doesn't need any witnesses since He sees into our hearts.
There is no salvation in the world to come. You're offering false hope. Sounds like something the enemy would do. :think:
She confuses the jews in tribulation confused with the Body of Christ.
"He who rejects Me and does not receive My words has that which judges him, the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day."
(John 12:48)
We will judge the unbelievers.
glorydaz
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You're a believer? You believe some mighty strange things, so I wouldn't count on judging anyone were I you.
glorydaz
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Is that what it is? Well, it sure isn't like anything else I've ever heard.