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Eclectic Theosophist
Duration of sin's effects.......
Duration of sin's effects.......
The 'higher authority' is accessible thru the faculties of conscience and illumination from the Spirit as there is no other medium or arbiter existing, hence we are even called by Deity to "reason together" since God will not impose or enforce a law or principle that is contrary or inimical to our moral sense of justice or fairness, our 'conscience' bearing witness to the law of God.
No matter what religious book you use, since if you grew up in a different religious cult-ure you'd be using their holy books, you are still left with the faculty of reason and conscience as your moral compass and guide. Religious writings if truly inspired will resonate and agree with universal law and principle, albeit embellished in their own nomenclature or mythology. - still...you have your own soul faculties as a lens, mirror and guide.
Granted, I was coming from a Theosophical View of karma, as an impersonal universal law although it's effects are certainly personal of course. In Theosophy there isn't the need of a 'personal God' since the Infinite transcends personality and is beyond human conception, but perhaps I digress. We can assume God as a divine Personality just the same, as some innate all supreme intelligence governing and coordinating all actions, but this 'God' could just as well still be the master-controller of all cause/effects, thru the various agencies of other intelligent beings (angelic orders, hierarchy) and universal laws.
The cosmos is a manifold unity, interdependent in its relations.
Here we note there are personal and non-personal aspects to God and creation, depending on our terms and definitions...plus 'context'. There are many things going on in the cosmos that while under the ultimate supreme over-control of a personal God (so assumed) do not appear to be directly micro-managed by this personal Being. The law of seed-time and harvest (sowing & reaping) however continues.......
See above. Yes,....we questioned ECT on principle alone already and found it insane. An eternity of conscious punishment to which there is no resolve, reparation, reformation or relief is obscene, illogical and senseless. Sin is alleviated by its effect of death, or its non-existence whereby the potential of death is no more. Or there is a full transformation of the soul in the fire of God to bring forth a new creation or various stages of purification.
By the law of progress I mean the higher law of love which ultimately transcends the law of karma conditioning it, to effect a higher good towards purification.
Concerning blasphemy against the holy spirit, that's another subject treated elsewhere and subject to interpretation. On a more liberal note I've held that as long as a soul is capable of repentance, there is hope of salvation still afforded.
Yep, as I've expounded here previously. But as the thread title suggests....this is from within a limited biblical-context, it's own terms and definitions which are complicated by translation, hence the different views. Esoteric and spiritualist schools both east and west however differ in perspective including reincarnation in their cosmology gearing more towards universalism, although some soul's may apparently be so consumed by iniquity that they undergo disintegration. There is ample room for speculation here, beyond the clear biblical presentation of 'life' and 'death' being the available options for us to choose from. John 3:16
Duration of sin's effects.......
The 'higher authority' is accessible thru the faculties of conscience and illumination from the Spirit as there is no other medium or arbiter existing, hence we are even called by Deity to "reason together" since God will not impose or enforce a law or principle that is contrary or inimical to our moral sense of justice or fairness, our 'conscience' bearing witness to the law of God.
No matter what religious book you use, since if you grew up in a different religious cult-ure you'd be using their holy books, you are still left with the faculty of reason and conscience as your moral compass and guide. Religious writings if truly inspired will resonate and agree with universal law and principle, albeit embellished in their own nomenclature or mythology. - still...you have your own soul faculties as a lens, mirror and guide.
Granted, I was coming from a Theosophical View of karma, as an impersonal universal law although it's effects are certainly personal of course. In Theosophy there isn't the need of a 'personal God' since the Infinite transcends personality and is beyond human conception, but perhaps I digress. We can assume God as a divine Personality just the same, as some innate all supreme intelligence governing and coordinating all actions, but this 'God' could just as well still be the master-controller of all cause/effects, thru the various agencies of other intelligent beings (angelic orders, hierarchy) and universal laws.
The cosmos is a manifold unity, interdependent in its relations.
Here we note there are personal and non-personal aspects to God and creation, depending on our terms and definitions...plus 'context'. There are many things going on in the cosmos that while under the ultimate supreme over-control of a personal God (so assumed) do not appear to be directly micro-managed by this personal Being. The law of seed-time and harvest (sowing & reaping) however continues.......
See above. Yes,....we questioned ECT on principle alone already and found it insane. An eternity of conscious punishment to which there is no resolve, reparation, reformation or relief is obscene, illogical and senseless. Sin is alleviated by its effect of death, or its non-existence whereby the potential of death is no more. Or there is a full transformation of the soul in the fire of God to bring forth a new creation or various stages of purification.
By the law of progress I mean the higher law of love which ultimately transcends the law of karma conditioning it, to effect a higher good towards purification.
Concerning blasphemy against the holy spirit, that's another subject treated elsewhere and subject to interpretation. On a more liberal note I've held that as long as a soul is capable of repentance, there is hope of salvation still afforded.
Yep, as I've expounded here previously. But as the thread title suggests....this is from within a limited biblical-context, it's own terms and definitions which are complicated by translation, hence the different views. Esoteric and spiritualist schools both east and west however differ in perspective including reincarnation in their cosmology gearing more towards universalism, although some soul's may apparently be so consumed by iniquity that they undergo disintegration. There is ample room for speculation here, beyond the clear biblical presentation of 'life' and 'death' being the available options for us to choose from. John 3:16
